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    geo27
    Is the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta simply the best Ferrari? It has everything: the legendary Ferrari V12, which could still express itself vocally, but also with its aggressiveness high in the revs. One of the latest designs signed with Pininfarina, and its beautiful Italian curves. A “reasonable” price, a modern and practical car. A sign that is unmistakable: in a current market at a standstill, where nothing is being sold, the Ferrari F12 Berlinettas are highly sought after.
    But how do you find a nice copy? What options are essential? What are the points to watch out for? What can you expect on a daily basis with a Ferrari F12 Berlinetta? What are the costs associated with its use? Many questions to which only an owner can give you reliable answers. He has nothing to sell you and he has lived with it every day for a long time.@geo27 details his history with his magnificent Ferrari F12 Berlinetta Nero Daytona.
     

     
    Specifications
    Model years: 2012-2017  Engine: V12 6,3l 48s Transmission: Sequential with 7 gears
    Maximum power: 740 ch at 8250 rpm Maximum torque: 690 Nm at 6,000 rpm
    Kerb weight: 1 525 kg Top speed: 340 km/h - Acceleration : 3.1 s from 0 to 100 km/h
     
    @Franck : What is your automotive background and why did you choose the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta?
     
    @geo27 : I have been passionate about cars since I was little because I often saw an E type Jaguar on my street when I went to primary school and this car fascinated me with its long hood. I have also followed F1 since 1974. And obviously, a big supporter of the (very?) bad faith of Scuderia Ferrari.
     
    My first car was a Renault 10 in 1979 with a blocked engine, paid 200 Frs. I had rebuilt her engine and she allowed me to get used to it with my 90 stuck behind it.
    Then Peugeot 104, 205, including a GTI 1.9 bought new in 88. Meanwhile, I bought a wreck of Triumph TR5 that I completely restored myself (except the bodywork/painting), I also got involved in the TR Register club for years. I kept it for 19 years, I always said I would only sell it for a Ferrari.
    At the same time, I had, among others, several BMWs (5..., including an M3 E92), and a 911 3.2.
     
    My first Ferrari was the F355 at the start of 2007, I have excellent memories of it. Finally the dream accomplished. I sold it in 2012 for a Ferrari 430 Scuderia. This almost new car (12,000 km) gave me a lot of pleasure behind the wheel. I tried the F12 Berlinetta when it was presented and I always said to myself that this car will be for my old days...
     

     
    @Franck : What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari F12 Berlinetta and how did you find this example?
     
    @geo27 : The Ferrari 430 scuderia had everything a fan of the brand could love. The stripped down side, extreme toy, absolute love on small roads and now a collector side which also makes it a good investment, But it is a car which had become tiring for me, almost boring on long journeys. The noise, the discomfort, the lack of storage, the stiff seats and the harnesses (I hate harnesses on the road...) mean that I got tired of it after more than 9 years in its company. In addition, I never felt comfortable with its braking.
     
    All the cars correspond to a moment in his life. When I was over sixty, I decided to change to an F12. Having had 2 reds, I didn't want any red (apart from Rosso Fuoco or Rosso Berlinetta). I wanted it with the power guarantee (so in the network), Daytona upholstery (no seat), necessarily with the lift (I used a board to get out and into my garage with the scud).
     
    Paradoxically, there are few French cars with a lift. I don't know if it was the dealers who did not force their hand on this option or if the French customers thought that the roads did not have speed bumps against the law? So I was looking especially in Germany and Italy where this option is very present.
     
    I missed a beautiful blue Pozzi in Milan by a few hours and ended up finding my 2015 Nero Daytona in Rome at Samocar. 26,000 km, Daytona upholstery, interior with carbon inserts, lift and 2-year power warranty. After a few phone calls to discuss the condition, I got in touch with Moteur et Sens to do the Scud/F12 deal. Everything went very well.
     

     
    @Franck : Immediately after purchase, what struck you the most behind the wheel of your Ferrari F12?
     
    @geo27 : Its 2 cars in one side: the big cat that purrs when you drive quietly, the soothing sound of the V12, a real joy,..
    And when you want to play, the fury at very high revs, a second push towards 5000 rpm which propels you with enjoyable force towards the red zone.
    The gearbox is ultra fast, the downshifts are done for pleasure, we have hair...
    We buy this car for the engine/transmission assembly and the great music that goes with it. It's fabulous. The rest is a bonus.
     
    In addition, personally, I found everything that the scud did not have. A soft suspension mode for bumpy roads. It is very effective,
    Room for storage in the passenger compartment and a more practical trunk. Cruise control to keep your license on the highway.
     
    In terms of behavior, I was afraid of feeling the weight coming from a lighter car but that's not the case. The steering is precise and direct with an excellent feeling, I was afraid that it would understeer too much, given its weight, but I don't think so. It is well balanced by its distribution of masses.
     
    Braking is excellent and calming compared to my previous one. I also use it a bit on the track and apart from being careful not to burn the brakes and my wallet (!), it behaves very well for fun.
     
    But we must not lose sight of the fact that it is a 740 hp monster; you must be careful on wet or bumpy roads. The main trap is to drive quietly in auto mode, to want to accelerate suddenly because the light turns orange (I know, you shouldn't, but hey...), the gearbox thinks you want to play, it engages one or 2 gears, and then, it's crazy... You always have to enter the speed by hand in this kind of situation or if you want to overtake in the wet. This helps avoid the surge of torque and too much retracted speed. I advise you to be careful while riding in wet mode when the weather is cold or wet to be safe.
     
    The tires must be in good condition too. After finishing the Pirellis that were fitted to the car when I bought it, switching to Michelin 4S changes the car and offers much better grip.
     
    Well, I hadn't said anything about it yet, but I find it very beautiful, one of the last to have the Pininfarina logo. I'm always charmed when I take off the tarpaulin to go for a walk. She has an incredible face and presence. My neighbor always tells me I have a Batmobile...
     

     
    @Franck : Can you tell us about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari F12 (insurance, annual maintenance, major overhaul, unforeseen events, etc.)?
     
    @geo27 : I have done 14,000 km since purchasing it in 2021. The first service was still included in the 7-year maintenance program.
    Then I did another overhaul in the network at Lecoq to respect the terms of the power contract (€1740).
    In 2024, I returned to Fiorano, I have been loyal there since my F355 days.
    New battery (€440), and service with 4 new 4S tires (€3,784).
    For insurance, it’s roughly €1,600 per year with possible circuit use.
    I did not extend the power warranty.
     

     
    @Franck : And if you had to do it again, what would you change?
     
    @geo27 : Nothing…
    The F12 gives me a lot of pleasure.
    I have tried many others, I like the versatility and formidable efficiency of the 296, the ultra violent side of the SF90 but I don't see myself going back to a mid-engined Berlinette.
     
    I really like the Ferrari 812 GTS, a Ferrari V12 cab, it's exceptional, but I find that it's not worth the €250k asked for more than an F12.
    And I like the 12 Cilindri spider too. I'd like to try it on. But the prices are increasingly crazy and the penalty is very dissuasive (also in principle).
    Sound level, from what we see on the videos already published, it is much less good.
    The modern dream is the SP3, but I'm not playing the lottery.
    I'm going to keep my F12, I'm very happy with it.
     

     
    @Franck : How do you use Ferrarista for your experience with your Ferrari?
     
    @geo27 : I've been reading, collecting scale models and supporting the scuderia ever since I can remember. And I always dreamed of having a Ferrari one day. For a rital, it’s like a religion.
    I was on the French section of Fchat and it was while reading it that I decided to take the plunge. But apart from 2 or 3 still here, we hardly ever met. At the same time, there was also the EAP forum with which we could do outings but it was multi-brand. I like all cars but our favorite brand remains the main topic of discussion for me.
     
    I also knew Karim before the creation of Club Scuderia but who did not have a forum...
    With you Franck, we have known each other since that time when we each had an F355. You had this idea of converting your Racing Driver blog into a forum and as soon as it was launched in November 2010, you warned me and came to register practically before anyone else, which made it possible to test any functionalities or bugs.
     
    For me, it is a place for exchanges and discussions between fans of my favorite brand. The forum also made it possible to have memorable meetings and outings, notably trips to Italy and annual meetings. At the beginning, there is always a certain reserve and shyness in approaching others when you arrive in a group, but conviviality allows you to fit in easily.
     
    I met a lot of members through this forum and some have become friends.
    That alone is already a lot.
    Thanks Frank. Almost 15 years will be celebrated...

    PS: On another level, we have also been waiting for a 17M for a long time…
     

     
    A huge THANK YOU @geo27 for this very interesting feedback to read, rich in information on the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta!
    Do you have anything else you would like to know about the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta?
    If you own one, what is your feedback and what advice would you give to someone who is hesitant about getting one?

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    Anto328GTS44

    Long term test: Ferrari 328 GTS by anto328GTS44

    Par Anto328GTS44, dans Achat et revente, 

    And why not a Ferrari 328 GTS? It's a very beautiful classic Ferrari, with sensual Italian lines, allowing you to drive with your hair in the wind to better hear the vocals of the Ferrari V8, while remaining relatively reasonable in cost.
    What to expect behind the wheel of a Ferrari 328 GTS? Is this a Ferrari made for you, for your use, for your selection criteria? @Anto328GTS44 tells you in detail his story with his Ferrari 328 GTS, to know what to watch out for, what are the costs of use, what are the pleasures provided, ...
     

     
    Specifications
    Model years: 1985-1989  Engine: V8 3,2l 32s Transmission: Manual 5 gears
    Maximum power: 270 ch at 7,000 rpm Maximum torque: 304 Nm at 5,500 rpm
    Kerb weight: 1 263 kg Top speed: 260 km/h - Acceleration : 6.3 s from 0 to 100 km/h
     
    @Franck: Quickly, what is your automotive background and the memory of your first Ferrari experience?

    @Anto328GTS44: I was a motorcyclist at the start and, to make a long story short, a bit like those TV shows that restore for profit to move up the car range, one of my first collector's cars, which I restored, was a DAF 33 of 1969.
     
     
     
    Then, to try to make a big move after reselling the DAF, I bought this Elegant Coachworks Special from 1985, with an 8.2l Cadillac V8.
    This “big move” ended at zero but allowed me to purchase the Ferrari.
     
      
     
    @Franck: When did you decide to have a Ferrari and why did you choose the Ferrari 328?

    @Anto328GTS44: After the Elegante, I was undecided on the next one, to stay in an American V8 (Corvette C1) or look for the V8 of my childhood, Ferrari 308 or 328.
    My son guided my decision and I suspect he wanted to take advantage of it but I thank him for it.
     
    @Franck: What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari 328 and how did you manage to find your copy?

    @Anto328GTS44: My preference quickly turned to the Ferrari 328 for reasons of maintenance costs and reliability after having inquired.
    So, the decision made, as the condition of purchase was the trade-in of the Elegante, I sent emails to all the professionals who had a Ferrari 328 in their stock.
     
    After a good month of research, only one responded positively to my request, and the deal was concluded in 15 days.
     

     
    @Franck: What is your experience with your Ferrari 328 in use? What struck you the most while driving it? What is your fondest memory with her?

    @Anto328GTS44: Experience of more than 17,000 kilometers in 2 years and 3 months of pure driving over the 33 months since purchase and on all types of roads, but not yet on the circuit.
    We really find all the pleasures of pure driving, no assistance, we learn to drive again and sometimes get a few scares.

    In terms of memories, each outing becomes a new one, with always this pleasure of driving, these eyes which turn towards the car, these discussions which begin or the wonder of children and adults, when I offer them a ride inside to immortalize a moment of sharing and pleasure.
     

     
    @Franck: Can you tell us about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari 328 (insurance, annual maintenance, major overhaul, tires, unforeseen events, etc.)?

    @Anto328GTS44: As for costs, I had a very major service done when I bought it, as it had done 10,000 kilometers in 32 years with its previous owner. So removing the engine for the distribution, the clutch, the spark plugs, the numerous oil seals, some hoses, the tires and so on... This service cost me an arm and a leg with an amount approaching 5 figures, but I negotiated it when purchasing... Phew!

    So since that ground zero, I haven't had any major maintenance costs. I had an unexpected incident, due to a micro-leak on the oil radiator, which was more expensive, while waiting for the part to be at a reasonable price, with 3 months of downtime, than on the overall cost of the intervention. I have to give it a little overhaul soon, I'll keep you posted.

    On this model, the advantage is that you can change the distribution and the clutch without removing the engine, unlike other models of those years. So, I think we can trust what is said on the forums with an average maintenance of €1,000 to €1,500 per year, without any major blows.

    In terms of insurance, you need to count on a little more than €100 per month for comprehensive insurance, theft and fire on appraisal value every 4 years.
    My overall average consumption is around a little less than 11l/100, which surprises a lot of people.
     

     
    @Franck: In your opinion, what are the points to watch out for on a Ferrari 328 over time? What preventative measures can be taken, or even improvements?

    @Anto328GTS44: Like all cars, but especially Italian ones, once hot, you can ask it anything and it will give it to you. On the other hand, when cold, if you make her scream, you risk getting angry.
    So respect the heating and cooling times, especially after sporty driving, regular maintenance, whether you ride or not, with regular monitoring of the levels, especially on old ones.
     


    @Franck: And if we had to do it again ? And if you could have any Ferrari, what would be next?

    @Anto328GTS44: To do again! Why, it's done... I would do it again of course. But with other means. I would perhaps have directed my choice towards other models by staying in those years or older.

    So, in approximate order... Ferrari 250 GTO, Ferrari F40, Dino 246 GT, Ferrari Testa Rossa and so on...
     

     
    @Franck: How do you use Ferrarista.club for your experience with your Ferrari? What does the Ferrarista community bring you?
     
    @Anto328GTS44: Unfortunately, I don't use it often enough, being on the move all year round, I have little time to benefit from all the forum discussions and read them all.
    But I got a lot of answers on the little problems I had with my 328 and met some very nice meetings with members of Ferrarista. So a big thank you to you and to all the founders of this community which brings us all good things in this world of brutes... 😉
     
    A BIG THANK YOU @Anto328GTS44 for all these interesting details about your experience behind the wheel of your Ferrari 328 GTS, hoping that it encourages others to take the plunge too.
    If you own a Ferrari 328, what other information would you give to someone interested in this model? What was your experience?
    If you're looking at the Ferrari 328 and thinking "why not", what other questions would you like to ask?
     
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    Franck
    Why does the Ferrari brand benefit from such an aura, placing it above all others? The Ferraris that you discover at Rétromobile give you the answer, allowing you to travel through automotive history. What were the most beautiful Ferraris present at Rétromobile in 2024? How can we learn about their fascinating history? And their chassis number, essential, because it allows you to follow their evolution over the years?
     
    A 2024 innovation on Ferrarista.club will help you: the photos from our on-site visit are accompanied by descriptive texts, translated, placed next to the Ferraris on the Rétromobile stands. This allows you to experience Rétromobile as if you were there. And if you were there, you probably didn't have time to read everything. Now you can do it, sitting quietly at home, to relive those good times! It is also a way of thanking the stands which take the time to write these explanatory texts for the general public, covering the history of the Ferrai presented, and to encourage other stands to do so as well.
     
    When you see a Ferrari present at Rétromobile again in 2024, thanks to its chassis number, you will find here which edition of Rétromobile it was, and in what configuration this Ferrari was presented. On the way to retracing the history of Ferrari with Rétromobile! Because if you are a Ferrari owner, and/or Ferrari enthusiast, you need to know this story.
     
     
    Ferrari 512 BB LM - 1981
     

     
    Chassis no. 35525
    Stand : Richard Mille
     
    60° V12 4.4 litres 352 HP at 7500 RPM 5-speed gearbox 320 km/h maximum speed Disc brakes  
    The modifications of the LM version of the 512 BB involved lightening along with improved high-speed aerodynamics, the engine was modified as were the suspension and cooling system.
    No. 35525 was sold to Wide World of Cars Inc. in 1981. The car raced at the 1981 24h of Le Mans where it arrived 3rd in class and 9th overall. The car remained in the US before returning to Europe in the early 2000s.
     
    Ferrari Classiche attestation for vehicles of historic interest
     
     
    Ferrari F1 - 312 B 3 - 1974
     

     
    Stand : Mécaniques Modernes & Classiques
     
    Technical Specifications:
     
    Engine: Type 001/11, rear-mounted 180° V12 derived from 001/1, light alloy cylinder block and head, aluminium wet cylinder liners, 112 mm connecting rods, water cooled Bore & Stroke: 80 x 49.6 mm Unitary and Total
    Displacement: 249.317/2,991.801 cc Compression Ratio: 11.5:1 Max. Power Output: 485 bhp at 12,500 rpm Timing Gear: 4 valves per cylinder, 2 overhead camshafts per cylinder bank, gear driven off the rear of the engine Fuel Feed: Lucas indirect injection Ignition: Single plug, Magneti Marelli Dinoplex electronic capacitive discharge Lubrication System: Dry sump Transmission: Rear-wheel drive, Borg & Beck multi-plate clutch, 628 rear longitudinal overhanging 5-speed gearbox + reverse, in unit with limited-slip differential Gear Ratios: Variable depending on track Chassis: Type 628 monocoque in boxed sheet aluminium Front Suspension: Double wishbones, rocker arms, inboard spring/damper units and anti-roll bar Rear Suspension: Upper arm, lower wishbone, upper radius rod and anti-roll bar Brakes: Lockheed discs and callipers, inboard at rear, separate hydraulic circuits, adjustable on both 2 axles Steering: Rack and pinion
     
    Length: 4,335 mm Width: 2,056 mm Height: 900 mm Wheelbase and Front/ Rear Track: 2,500/1,625/1,605 mm Kerb Weight (with water and oil): 578 kg Front Tyres: 9.0-20.0-13", Goodyear Rear Tyres: 14.0-26.0-13", Goodyear Wheels: cast light alloy; front 10x13", rear 16x13" Fuel Tank: 230 litres, 2 side-mounted tanks (NO 98/100 petrol) Bodywork: Aluminium single-seater, body with fiberglass elements
     
    Ferrarl 312 B 3 Production: only seven chassis were built for the 1974 F1 Championship
     
    The 312 B3 was the most powerfull and competitive car of the 1974 Championship, and Clay Regazzoni arrived 2ND in the World Championship leading also his team mate, Niki Lauda.
     
     
    Ferrari 312 PB - 1971
     

     
    Chassis no. 0890
    Stand : Richard Mille
     
    180° V12 3.0 litres 500 HP at 12 500 RPM 5 • speed gearbox Disc brakes  
    Official Scuderia Ferrari sport prototype raced in 1972 by Regazzoni, Redman, Merzario and Ickx (victory in the 1000 km Spa with Merzario-Redman and in the 500 km Imola with Merzario).
    Modified for the 1973 season and raced by ickx, Redman.•
    Pace and Merzario. Special bodywork with air intake on the right-hand side of the car and engine air duct above the roll-bar.
     
     
    Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona "Plexiglas" - 1970
     

     
    Chassis 12787
    Stannd : AS Classic Engineering
     
    Production Details: 56th body by Scaglietti, 54th on the assembly line, assembled between July 18 and 28, 1969. One of 530 plexiglasses out of 1,279 models
    Ferrari 365GTB/4 produced.
    History: Car presented at the Paris Auto Show in 1969 on the C.Pozzi stand.
    Fourth Daytona imported into France, second by Pozzi.
    Complete historical file.
    4 owners.
    First Owner: Delivered to a Lyon industrialist on February 19, 1970 in "Rosso Ferrari".
    Mr. Nicolas father and son took great care of the Daytona, returning to Pozzi for regular overhauls and maintenance.
    Today: In the collection of the current owner since 2000
     
     
    Ferrari 365 GTB/4 - 1970
     

     
    Chassis no. 13715
    Stand : Richard Mille
     
    60° V12 4.4 litres 352 hp at 7500 rpm 5-speed gearbox 280 km/h maximum speed Disc brakes  
    The 365 GTB/4, chassis no. 13715, was delivered in September 1970 to Motor S.p.A. - Bologna (Italy).
    In 1972 the car was converted by William Sala and Giovanni Marverti into a Group 4 competition version. it participated in several races from the 72' to the 74' season, arriving first in class at the 74' Coppa InterEuropa.
    Ferrari Classiche attestation for vehicles of historic interest.
     
     
    Ferrari 412 Р - 1967
     

     
    Chassis no. 0854
    Stand : Richard Mille
     
    60° V12 4.0 litres 420 hp at 8000 rpm 5-speed gearbox 310 km/h maximum speed Disc brakes  
    One of four produced, sold in in 1967 to Maranello Concessionaires Ltd. which fielded it at the 1000km de Francorchamps, BOAC 500 Brands Hatch and 24h Le Mans of the same year. It was then sold to David Piper's racing team participating in a number of races from 1967 to 1969.
    After a few changes of ownership; the car was exported in Japan and then re-imported in Europe.
    At the end of the 1990s it returned to the US and was then sold at auction last year.
     
     
    Ferrari 365 Р - 1965
     

     
    Chassis no. 0828
    Stand : Richard Mille
     
    60° V12 4.4 litres 380 hp at 7200 rpm 5-speed gearbox 300 km/h maximum speed Disc brakes  
    Official Scuderia Ferrari sport prototype for the 1965 season, Targa Florio winner with drivers Bandini - Vaccarella and 1000 Km Nürburgring winner with drivers Scarfiotti - Surtees.
    The 0828 was successively converted from 330 P2 to 365 P spec and sold to Ecurie Francorchamps which raced it at several competitions during the 66' season.
    The car underwent a complete restoration to 365 P configuration in 2016-2018 by Ferrari Classiche.
     
     
    Ferrari 275 GTB - Mars 1965
     

     
    Stand : Provost Automobiles
     
    V12 engine Completely redone bodywork, starting from the chassis Structure & floors remanufactured identically, by hand on marble Frosted and glossy paint, hand finished Electricity & cycle part fully restored Engine testing & tuning Complete new upholstery  
     
    Ferrari 250 LM - 1964
     

     
    Chassis no. 5901
    Stand : Richard Mille
     
    60° V12 3.3 litres 320 hp at 7500 rpm 5-speed gearbox 287 km/h maximum speed Disc brakes  
    The Ferrari 250 LM was intended as a limited production volume car to compete in the GT sports car racing class. However, it was not approved and the only option left was to race in the top-level prototype class, against tailor-made sports racing cars. Nonetheless, the 250 LM model achieved prestigious results.
     
    Chassis 5901 was sold to Luigi Chinetti Motors Inc. in 1964 in the US where it remained before being re-imported in Europe during the 1990s.
     
     
    Ferrari 250 GT/L Berlinetta Scaglietti - 1963
     

     
    Chassis number: 4419 GT
    Stand : Thiesen Automobiles
     
    Early example of the small series of only 350 examples With one owner for more than 44 years, just 85.000 km Ferrari Classiche Frame-off restored by „Brandoli", Italien  

     
    The Ferrari presented here is an early example of the small production series of just 350 units. The car was completed in May 1963 by the Carrozzeria Scaglietti as the 31st vehiclke. In August 1967, the car was sold to Peter Gabriel from New-York, USA, and remained in hiis possession for 44 years. The car was fully restored at renowned addresses in Italy according to the photo documentation available.
     
    A Ferran Classiche comes with the car.
     
     
    Ferrari 250 GT Lusso Scaglietti Prototype - 1962
     

     
    Chassis n° : 4053 GT
     
    In late 1962 Ferrari launched its latest model the 250 GT/L, with the L indicating Lusso, Italian for Luxury. This was its last production 3 litre Ferrari and 351 cars were
    Ferrari made between 1962 and 1964. A Lusso prototype was first displayed at the 49' Paris Auto Salon in October 1962 and arrived at the new Portes de Versailles venue mid-way through the show on the second to last day.
     
    This car was metallic grey, with twin tail lights on each side. According to Ferrari Classiche, this car, 4053 GT was originally grey (grigio) and was delivered to Franco Britannic Autos (F.B.A.) here in Paris, in December 1962, having been completed in September 1962.
    'Car and Driver' in May 1964 stated ... 'its proportions approach perfection'
     
    Esteemed Ferrari historian and sales manager of F.B.A. in the 1960s, the late Jess Pourret, corresponded with the current owner, stating that 4053 GT was in fact the Paris Salon motor show car and provided detail and photographs of its early life in France, showing the car featuring its distinctive four rear tail lights.
    In his 1980 'The Ferrari Legend: The Road Cars', the much respected
    Ferrari historian Antoine Prunet states that the Lusso Prototype in both the marketing materials and at the Paris Salon is 'probably 4053 GT'.
    Other, more recently written reports, suggest that the other prototype 3849 GT was in fact the Paris Salon car. That prototype is understood to be mid-rebuild in Germany.
    According to Pourret, 4053 GT was in France for its first 10 years and sadly set on fire as an insurance scam in 1973. The car was then in storage in Holland and bought by an investor in the US in the 90s, who subsequently lost interest in the project.
    Having owned and tinkered with over 50 Ferrari 250 GTs including several Lussos, in 2007, the current owner recognised the significance of the car and had the understanding, experience and the resources to restore the car.
    He sent the original matching numbers engine block to Roelofs Engineering for a full rebuild and it was fitted with high compression pistons.
    The car was registered in the UK in February 2016.
     
    ENGINE
    2953cc 60 Degree V12 All alloy single overhead cam per bank. 73mm Bore, 58.8mm Stroke.
    Compression ratio 10.6:1. Three twin choke Weber lightweight 40 DCL6 carburettors. Twin coils and distributor ignition. Spark plugs outside the vee. 240hp @ 7500rpm. 178lb ft (242Nm) torque at 5500 rpm.
     
    SPECIFICATION
     
    CLUTCH: Single plate.
    TRANSMISSION: 4 Speed synchromesh manual, rear wheel drive.
    SUSPENSION: Front wishbones with coil springs and telescopic dampers. Watts linkage from the 250 GTO. Rear live axle, radius arms, semi-elliptic springs, co-axial coll springs and telescopic dampers.
    BRAKES: Front and rear Dunlon discs and calipers. Separate calipers on the rear discs for the handbrake.
    WHEELS: Polished aluminium Borrani 3801 wheels fitted with 185VR15 Pirelli Cinturato tyres.
    EQUIPMENT: Spare wheel complete with tyre.
    WEIGHT: 1020 kg
    SPEED: 150mph / 240 kph, 0-62 mph 6.5-7.5 seconds.
    WHEELBASE: 2.4m (Same as a SWB Berlinetta).
     
     
    Ferrari 250 GT Cabriolet Pininfarina Series II - 1962
     

     
    Chassis n° : 3469GT
    Stand : Car Collector
     
    Car details
    Engine: Ferran Colombo V12 (3.0L)
    Power: 240 HP
    Gearbox 4-speed manual
    One of Pininfarina's most elegant design
     
    Highlights
    This chassls 3469GT, finished In Griglo Conchigila, presents Itself in perfect condition, fully certified by Ferrari Classlche and ready to be driven and enjoyed. To the day, the Ferrari
    250 GT Serles 2 Pininfarina Cabriolet remains one of the most understated and beautiful Forrari while being a very usable oar.
     
     
    Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta SEFAC Comp. - 1961
     

     
    Chassis n° :  3005GT
    Stand : Lukas Huni
     
    When Enzo Ferrari began building automobiles in his own name in 1948, the purpose was to be active in racing. He had already proven his ability to organise and manage a racing team, the Scuderia Ferrari, which had run the factory Alfa Romeo cars in the Thirties, as well as his ability to race a variety of race cars in the Twenties.
     
    Success came quickly to the new team at Maranello with wins in the Mille Miglia and the Targa Florio. In 1949 FERRARI again captured the Targa Florio and Mille Miglia, won the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and Spa Francorchamps. And in 1952 Alberto Ascari won the first Grand Prix Driver's World Championship. Between 1953 and 1961, seven of nine Constructors' Championships were won by FERRARI. FERRARI was also successful in supplying cars to privateers who were winning races all over the world.
     
    By 1959, FERRARI was firmly established as world's foremost manufacturer of Sports and Racing cars, and the immense success of the 250 GT (4 times Winner of the Tour de France) and the 250 Testa Rossa had cemented the foundation of the magic racing image of FERRARI. A new model was in preparation for 1960 that should continue the tradition of the Berlinetta Tour de France, but should be even faster and even more agile. Hence was created the new 250 GT Berlinetta Short Wheelbase, featuring a revised V12 3-litre engine with outside plugs and increased power, wheelbase shortened from 260 cm to 240 cm with yet another timeless coachwork design by Pininfarina.
     
    The 250 GT Berlinetta Short Wheelbase was divided into two separate models - the Steel (or road) version (with body made of steel) and the Competition version, obviously destined for Competition, featuring lighter aluminium coachwork, outside petrol filler cap, high-performance engine and optimised suspension.
     
    This particular car, 250 GT Berlinetta Short Wheelbase SEFAC Competition 1961 Chassis No. 3005GT 1961, is one of the rare last SEFAC Competition versions, featuring a thinner-gauge aluminium body, a thinner-gauge chassis specification, an even more highly developed competition engine and various other features aimed at making this last version most competitive.
     

     
    3005GT is a highly important member of the FERRARI history for the following reasons:
    last-produced SEFAC (with Tipo 539/61 chassis and all SEFAC features) official NART Team Car Winner of the 1961 1000 km of Paris with both Pedro and Ricardo Rodriguez one of the cars officially modified by the FERRARI factory to 6 carburettors  
     
    Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta SWB Competizione - 1960
     

     
    Chassis n° : 1785GT
    Stand : Car Collector
     
    Car details
    Engine Ferrari Tipo 188B Colombo V12 (3,OL)
    Power 276 HP
    Gearbox 4 speed manual
    Coachwork by Scagletti
    One of the first Berlinetta produced with aluminium body. Initialy owned by Charlie Kreistar It ranked 4th at Sebring in 1960
    Later it secured 3rd place in the America SCCA Championship, in 1968.
    Swiss driver Reno Herzog rebuilt 1785GT with enhancements and it was ratified by tha FlA In the GTS series in 1980.
    The current owner continues to drive and race this historic Ferrari.
     

     
     
    Ferrari 250 Europa Pinin Farina Coupé - 1954
     

     
    Chassis n° : 0351EU
    Stand : Lukas Huni
     
    In the mid-Fifties, FERRARI had become world-famous as a manufacturer of sports and racing cars. All the knowledge gained on the track was immediately applied to production cars making them successful with owners and enthusiasts alike.
     
    Introduced to the public at the 1953 Paris Automobile Salon, alongside the 375 America, the 250 Europa was the first road-going Ferrari identified by the now legendary 250 series nomenclature and the only 250 to carry the Aurelia Lampredi-designed V12 engine which was the chosen engine for FERRARI early sports racing cars, producing over 200 HP. It was the 250 Sport, driven to victory by Bracco/Rolfo in the 1952 Mille Miglia, which demonstrated the engine's capabilities and prompted FERRARI to use it in its first luxury production sports car. Lampredi's race-proven long-block V12 engine endowed the 250 Europa with phenomenal performance - the 250 Europa was capable of 220 kph top speed and an acceleration of under 9 seconds from 0-100 kph.
     
    All cars were entirely hand-built, and no two were exactly alike, new knowledge and experience with the racing cars being applied instantly as production was going on. A mere 20 cars of the Tipo 103 250 Europa were built, of which 16 cars with Pinin Farina Coupé coachwork. The early cars had a projecting and overhanging radiator grille with a high waistline compared to the low but rather ordinary greenhouse. Later cars, including 0351EU featured a fully integrated more modern looking radiator with a redesigned greenhouse featuring a striking wrap-around rear window and the elimination of the rear quarter windows giving the car a sportier look.
     
    This particular car, 250 Europa Pinin Farina Coupé, Chassis Number 0351EU, is unique for a number of reasons. It is the last only around 20 250 Europa with the Lampredi engine built (before the introduction of the Europa GT with the Colombo engine) with the most striking Pinin Farina body design. It was finished on 25m May 1954 for Los Angeles-based famous movie director Clarence Brown (who produced numerous movies with actors such as Rudolph Valentino and Greta Garbo). Instead of taking the car directly to California he toured Europe for a few months, participating in the 1954 Cannes Concours d'Elegance Automobile, earning him laurels in the 1954 Ferrari Yearbook. Brown sold the car in 1958 to Washington resident Lawrence Garden who kept the car for 3 years before selling it to Stanley Baker from Seattle. It was Mr. Baker who ended up being 0351EU's custodian for an incredible 42 years.
     
    Early in his ownership he repainted the car to the beautiful enamel Ivory colour before showing it no less than 3 times in the renowned Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance (1965, 1966 and 1990). Baker clearly cherished his beloved possession tremendously which is evidenced by the car's incredible originality including the original, preserved interior.
    A unique Luxury Gran Turismo Ferrari. in outstanding, extremely original condition, representing the best moment of PininFarina design of the Fifties.
     

     
    The further details of the car are as follows:
    Chassis Number: 0351EU
    Engine Number: 0351EU
    Engine Specification: V12-cylinder 2953 cc Lampredi engine with 220 HP
    Wheelbase: 2800 mm
    Colour: Ivory
    interior: Pelle Rosso Chiaro (original)
     
     
    Ferrari TIPO 625 MONOPOSTO - 1954
     

     
    Chassis No. 0540
    Stand : Sotheby's
     
    Ultra-rare early 1950s Ferrari Formula One example
    Sister car to Ferrari's first World Championship-winning car. the extremely successful 500 F2, which took Alberto Ascari to back-to-back World Championships in 1952 and 1953
    Factory-upgraded to 625 Fl specifications in early 1954
    The first Ferrari campaigned by the Belgian national team Ecurie Francorchamps
    The only Ferrari monoposto ever raced by the legendary Marquis Alfonso de Portago
    Retained for over 15 years in the prestigious Bardinon Mas du Clos Collection
    Matching-numbers engine example recently emerging from over 20 years of single ownership
     

     

     
     
    Ferrari 375 MM Pinin Farina Spider - 1953
     

     
    Chassis n° : 0362AM
    Stand : Lukas Huni
     
    The 375 MM models (boasting a Lampredi V12 4.5 litre engine with an impressive 340bhp and replacing the 340 MM with 4.1 litre), were built in 1953 and 1954, helping Ferrari win the 1954 Championship. Initially run as SEFAC Works Cars, the 375 MM was also sold to privateer teams, whilst the 375 Plus (increased to 4.9 litre) was also introduced during the 1954 season. Some 26 375 MM were built, of which 13 375 MM featured the stunningly beautiful Pinin Farina Spider design, with three of these being rebodied by Scaglietti in period, thus only ten remaining in their original configuration.
     
    375 MM Pinin Farina Spider 0362AM with Scuderia Parravano 1953 - 1958
    Tony Parravano, Italian-born and living in California, was the most important client of both MASERATI and FERRARI in that period and as such enjoyed preferential treatment by both manufacturers. Before production of the 375 MM had started, Parravano already paid for his car in 1953 and was allocated 0362AM by the factory. He very proudly took delivery of 0362AM on October 31st, 1953. The original Foglio di Montaggio shows that the identity of his car was changed from 0376AM to 0362AM before delivery. 0362AM was intensely raced by Scuderia Parravano in 1954 with many 1st OA in the American SCCA race series driven mainly by Jack McAfee. Its most important race was the 1955 Sebring where McAfee was going well, but had to retire due to the car catching fire, causing damage to the rear part of the car, repaired immediately afterwards and repainted in Maroon. The Parravano period ended with the mysterious disappearance of Tony Parravano (rumoured for reasons of tax evasion), resulting in 0362AM being sold to Colonel Sorrell in an IRS Auction, together with more cars and parts from the Parravano stable.
     
    Further Racing for 0362AM 1955 - 1968
    As was typical for the period (with new models introduced and changing FIA rules) 0362AM was modified by Scuderia Parravano and later with Frank Arciero in California. In 1955 the chassis was shortened to enter the 1955 Carrera Panamericana (event cancelled), and in 1958 0362AM was fitted with a Mistral fiberglass body to compete in the USAC and Pacific Coast Sports Championship series. Indeed 0362AM enjoyed significant race success when driven by Dan Gurney, Skip Hudson and Bob Bondurant.
     
    Charles Betz and Fred Peters 1968 - 2014
    Charles Betz and Fred Peters, very knowledgeable collectors from Orange, California, were successful in buying 0362AM with the help of Ron Kellogg in 1968. In a difficult search and intense activity during the subsequent years, Betz/Peters were successful in tracing those parts which over the years had been removed from 0362AM. Many of them were in the Sorrell estate, some were sourced from Chinetti, and more from Newport Beach collector Ernie Beutler. A skilful and comprehensive restoration by Betz/Peters over the coming years, involving the best specialists of the time including Steve Beckman of Costa Mesa, was most successful, re-uniting 0362AM with the original parts, and restoring 0362AM to its original specification as delivered new in 1953.
     
    In a Private European Collection since 2015
    To the delight of the Ferrari Collectors World, 0362AM has been seen back to original splendour in recent years, including participation in the Mille Miglia each year.
     

     
    The further details of the car are as follows:
    Chassis Number: 0362AM
    Coachwork: Spider Coachwork by PininFarina (one of 13)
    Engine Specification: V12 Lampredi engine with 4522 cc and 340 bhp
     
     
    Ferrari 340 America Berlinetta - 1951
     

     
    Chassis n° : 0122A
    Stand : Axel Schuette

    • Ferrari Classiche Certificate • Well known Belgium history • 1 of 2 Touring Berlinettas built
     
    The car presented here was delivered to Ferrari dealer Comptoir Automobiles Richard SA in Brussels, Belgium on August 20, 1951. On January 19, 1952, the vehicle was exhibited at the 35th Brussels Motor Show. In the first years the vehicle was owned exclusively by Belgian Ferrari enthusiasts.

    Then in 1953 the car was sold to Jacques Swaters of Garage Francorchamps. Through Mr. Swaters, the 340 America went to racer Pierre d'Haveloose, who participated in a number of races in Belgium. In 1957, Armand "Blary" Blaton, the father-in-law of Jacky Ickx, bought the car and participated, among others, in the 4th Rallye d'Automne.
    In the following years, the car went back into the possession of Garage Francorchamps and then to the famous collector Dr. Paul F. Schouwenburg, who had the car restored and documented the process in his book "Ferrari Fever".

    From 1986 to 2010, the vehicle was part of the famous Lucchini collection in Italy.
    It participated several times in the famous Mille Miglia with three previous, while it is in our clientele since 2013. In 2017 it was certified by Ferrari Classiche with a so-called "Red Book".
     
     
    Scuderia Ferrari Alfa Romeo 8C 2600 - 1933
     

     
    Chassis n° : MONZA #SF25
    Stand : AVC Prague
     
    MONZA #SF25
    Engine: 8-cylinder, DOHC with Supercharger, 2.557 cm3
    Body: Monza by Carrozzeria Brianza
    Year: 1933
     
    • Scuderia Ferrari Alfa Romeo 8C chassis nr. SF25
     
    For the 1934 competition season S.A. Scuderia Ferrari produced the final Alfa Romeo 8C Monza's, using locally built chassis frames to their own specifications and increasing the engine size to 2.6 liters, and new bodies by Carrozzeria Brianza. All other components used came from second series Alfa Romeo 8C 2300's that were in stock at the Scuderia workshop.
     
    SF25 was registered - MO 7139 - on the 4th of April 1934, and a little time later in the Mille Miglia, Tadini and Barbeiri led the way racing SF25 to Roma holding off Nuvolari, Varzi, and all the other aces while averaging 120 kmph.
     
    You will find more photos of Rétromobile, taken by Ferrarista.club members, here:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/19437-rétromobile-2024/
     
    A big THANK YOU to all the stands which provide visitors with so many explanations on the models on display. Some give much more detail than others, the levels of information are disparate and stands which do not provide any information should be encouraged to do so, so that people become even more passionate about the models on display.
     
    Is this innovation, presenting you with the descriptive texts present at the show; in addition to the photos taken on site did you like it? What could be improved?
    Were you present at Rétromobile 2024? What did you like the most? What other Ferraris have left their mark on you?
     
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    Franck
    Why is there such a price gap between two Ferrari 360 Modenas? What options are essential if you want to resell your Ferrari 360 Modena more easily? What improvements have been made to the Ferrari 360 Modena over the years? What elements were really delivered as standard or optional, or even as a free option? Which items on this example of Ferrari 360 Modena are not factory options? If you own or are interested in purchasing a Ferrari 360 Modena, knowing this information is essential to fully understanding the Ferrari 360 Modena in front of you.
     
    Ferrari 360 Modena version history
     
    When were the different Ferrari 360 models released? How many copies? Are there any special series you should know about?

    1999: Launch of the Ferrari 360 Modena coupe with an all-aluminum design and a 3.6-liter 400 hp V8, derived from that of the Ferrari F355. The transmissions offered were the six-speed manual gearbox and the six-speed “F1” robotic gearbox. Around 8,800 Coupé versions were produced, including 2,630 with manual gearboxes. Price of the Ferrari 360 Modena BV6 in 2004: 133,400 euros, price in F1 box: 141,700 euros.
     

     
    2000: Release of the Ferrari 360 Spider, mechanically identical to the 360 Modena, with an electrically folding soft top and chassis reinforcements adding 59 kg to the total weight. Around 7,565 Ferrari 360 Spiders were produced, including 2,119 with manual transmissions. Price of the Ferrari 360 Spider in 2004 in BV6: 152,000 euros, price in F1 box: 160,300 euros.
     
    The Ferrari 360 Modena Challenge was introduced the same year for one-make racing series

    2002: Introduced the Ferrari 360 GT, a non-road legal racing car, made available to customers intending to use them for track events.

    2003: Launch of the Ferrari Challenge Stradale of which 1,288 examples were produced. The many changes made include carbon-ceramic brakes, taken from the Ferrari Enzo, a big reduction in weight, of the order of 110 kg, thanks to lexan windows, the use of many carbon elements and titanium, and a stripped interior. The base price was 171,200 euros. The list of options was specific.
     
    2004: The Ferrari 360 GTC replaces the Ferrari 360 GT and remains a track-only derivative.
     
    2005: The last Ferrari 360 rolls off the production line and is replaced by the Ferrari F430.
     

     
    Improvements to the Ferrari 360 Modena over the years
     
    As with any automobile, modifications were made by Ferrari throughout the distribution of the Ferrari 360 Modena, to meet new regulatory standards or resolve certain teething problems, among others. Here is the list of the main changes made:
     
    1999: This first vintage did not have pre-catalysts in the exhaust manifolds. This first vintage would potentially be more efficient and has one less part that could fail.

    2000: To comply with new emissions rules, pre-catalysts were added.
     
    2001: Xenon headlights come standard. On previous vintages, you will find halogen headlights if the xenon option had not been chosen. The variator and starter flywheel ring issues have been resolved on vintages starting this year.
     
    2002: New wishbones were introduced to solve the problem of premature wear of the ball joints. Ferrari 360s from 2002 also allow you to upgrade their TCU to 2003 or Challenge Stradale specification. On this vintage, all major and minor problems have been resolved.
     
    It was also in 2002 that the Ferrari factory produced a unique example: the Ferrari 360 Barchetta. It was commissioned by Gianni Agnelli, ex-president of the Fiat group, to give as a wedding gift to Luca di Montezemolo (president of Ferrari).

    2003: A new version of the TCU (Transmission Control Unit) software is delivered allowing manual adjustment of the PIS (point of initial clutch slip). This TCU can be installed on 2002 vintage Ferrari 360 Modena.
     

     
    Ferrari 360 Modena options list
     
    The list of options shown below was the exhaustive list in 2004. Some options have been added over the years, such as the Racing exhaust. Others have disappeared, like the xenon headlights (at 1,479 euros) delivered as standard from 2001.
     
    Note that certain options were only available for the coupe version and others only for the spider version.
    The prices indicated were a priori excluding taxes and changed over the years and the markets. We must rather consider them as an idea...about twenty years ago.
     

     
    To this list of options, to know if your Ferrari 360 Modena is equipped with original elements, do not forget to add that Ferrari Genuine offers rims, load maintainers, covers or titanium studs , for example, which you can later add to your Ferrari 360 Modena. With a list that has evolved over the years.
     
    Two specific options in detail
     
    Two options of the Ferrari 360 Modena may surprise you because they are not very common and more expensive than the others. They in fact appeared later in the catalog, probably in connection with the Ferrari Challenge Stradale, featuring, among other things, a specific exhaust and numerous carbon elements.
     
    Carbon kit for the engine compartment
     
    The carbon finishing kit for the engine compartment was available on both the Coupe and Spider models.
    It includes: grilles on the side of the engine bay, filter covers, plate with prancing horse between the intake chambers.
    Separate elements of the kit, or other carbon elements, may have been offered by Ferrari after-sales.
     

     
    Racing exhaust system
     
    The kit contains a complete exhaust, a specific computer for the engine, catalytic converters. This solution is 7kg lighter than the standard exhaust and delivers a more powerful, racing-style sound.
     
    The racing-style exhaust has been approved in Europe for Ferrari 360 Modena and Spider vehicles complying with Directive 1999/102/EC (and following) on polluting emissions.
     
    These are “Euro Stage 3” type vehicles (CE approval codes: e3*98/14*0043*03 and following), introduced in autumn 2000. Consequently, only vehicles of this version, and the following, can be equipped with the Racing exhaust.

    Which options to favor?
     
    Finally, certain options are more sought after at the time of resale, such as the Daytona seats or the Racing seats, or the fender badges and the Challenge grille at the rear. Moreover, this Challenge grille for the Ferrari 360 is not the same as that of the Ferrari Challenge Stradale, whose ventilation holes are wider.

    What are the preferred options from your point of view? What additional details could be provided regarding the options and developments made by Ferrari on the Ferrari 360 Modena? What other information would you like to know about this model?

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    Jean66
    Did you have his poster in your room? This is the Magnum Ferrari, a classic, timeless, magnificent! Highly appreciated and sought after, it symbolizes the Ferrari, while remaining relatively accessible and in keeping with the times. How to find the right copy? What to expect in terms of maintenance costs? What elements to pay attention to in prevention? What sensations can you expect at the wheel, for a car that is around forty years old?
    It's @Jean66, a converted Porsche fundamentalist, who will tell you about his and share his feedback with you, exuding passion and authenticity.
     
    @Franck Quickly, what is your automotive background and the memory of your first Ferrari experience?
     
    @Jean66 It all starts with my father who was a great enthusiast of sports cars, and a great maniac, a high-level competitor in Karting. So in the atmosphere of beautiful cars and sport, I quickly became passionate. I got my license 2 days after my 18th birthday. I already knew how to drive 🙂 after a 2 hp and a Fiat Panda 45, at 20 years old, my first sports car was a Fiat 128 Abarth and the BMW 323 I E21 that my dad lent me and told me "don't break it".. .If he knew what I did with it... 🙂 An Opel Manta GSI that I loved, then a few BMW 3 series which went well and, very quickly, at the age of 24, the start of a long line of Porsche 911s, with which I did all kinds of motorsport. And all the time, the good old days!
     
    My first Ferrari experience in 2014 was a stunning Giallo Modena yellow Ferrari F355 GTS. His line drove me crazy! I wanted at all costs: a yellow one without a roof. I bought it without seeing it, by word of mouth, and through Porsche and Ferrari friends. And so, it was her discovery at the brand specialist with whom she was, because its owner did not want to make himself known, and preferred to go through a “pro”. Its start-up and exit from said garage, in Lyon, a memorable moment of stress and great happiness, my first laps in a Ferrari! I quickly learned the beast! The dream of a Ferrari came true!
     

     
    Specifications
    Model years: 1982-1985  Engine: V8 3,0l 32s Transmission: Manual 5 gears
    Maximum power: 240 ch at 7,000 rpm Maximum torque:  260 Nm at 5,000 rpm
    Kerb weight: 1 275 kg Top speed:  255 km/h Acceleration: 6.1s from 0 to 100 km/h
     
    @Franck When did you decide to have a Ferrari and why did you choose the Ferrari 308 today?
     
    @Jean66 I decided to move to Ferrari after almost 25 years of absolute passion dedicated to Porsche and the 911, and therefore for a very sad reason. The ambient autophobia and the helping repression in France meant that I completely changed my path by calling myself, the Porsche fundamentalist, and why not a Ferrari?
    Telling myself, a car that we look at and experience like a work of art, and which is less encouraging to get into it, than a 911, which will suit me more at that moment. And so I entered the legend with a yellow Ferrari F355 GTS, then a Ferrari 360 Spider, also yellow, to finally return to the old ones that I love so much.
    I didn't choose her, she chose me! LA 308! in GTB and quattrovalvole, called QV, rare model. Only 748 examples were produced, almost half the production of the Ferrari F40.., and a rare beauty! Because I wanted to rediscover the feeling of my old 911s, and I was not disappointed! The sensations and performances are there, you don't need to be at 200 km/h to enjoy it! This Ferrari is a world of permanent senses, extraordinary!
     

     
    @Franck What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari 308 and how did you manage to find your copy?
     
    @Jean66 I don't have any particular criteria in general, other than a copy with a clear history and rather a high-performance version. I am a great perfectionist, so already in very good general condition. This is just the basics for me. This time I wanted it red.
    On the other hand, she was the one who found me! This Ferrari 308 GTB QV fell on me like love at first sight. Destiny made me come across it and ride with it, a memorable weekend! Thanks to its former owner and friend who dared to lend it to me! Because I had just sold my Ferrari 360 Spider, while I was registered for the GT in the heart of Carcassonne, an annual Ferrari charity event not to be missed!
    And so, no longer owning a Ferrari, when I came back from this event, I just told him "I loved it so much! One day it will be mine" and that was the case 5 years later. I thank him again, he who had also pampered her for 7 years, before being willing to hand her over to me! Thanks again to you @Oliv. For your passion and this adventure that I perpetuate with this Ferrari 308 QV, this true Italian, with a clear past.
     

     
    @Franck What is your experience with your Ferrari 308 in use?
     
    @Jean66 Well we can already say, only happiness!! Just seeing it, opening the door and smelling it, sitting there, already puts a smile on your face! And turning the key, it’s just Wow! In short, an extraordinary experience! Whatever the reason for the trip, it's a treat, knowing that I'm mainly doing leisure with it. A few exhibitions, but that's not really my thing. I especially like driving, personal rides, club outings, or old-timers, and historic regularity rallying.
     
    In use, whether in town, on the highway, or in the mountains, this Ferrari is a real Swiss army knife. Its engine and chassis approval allows a very wide choice of uses, and above all very reliable. I always leave without any second thoughts regarding a possible breakdown.
     

     
    @Franck What struck you the most while driving it?
     
    @Jean66 How can we explain this feeling? A return to basics. With it, I rediscovered the sensations and the excitement that I had when I had my very first 911. And the smile! It's been almost ten years since I lost my faith. I had fun with my cars, but without the flame that this 308 QV reignited in me! An indescribable sensation, that those who have had it, or experience it, will understand. Just riding with it is memorable. Just writing these lines, and thinking about it, makes me smile!
     
    @Franck What is your fondest memory with her?
     
    @Jean66 Without hesitation, my first contact with her. My first laps of the wheels to get to the GT du coeur in Carcassonne, from the Var and back, including the weekend on site. We even had snow, but that will stay with me for life! On the way back, I told her owner that one day she would be mine... and indeed 5 years later, she was mine.
     

     
    @Franck Can you tell us about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari 308 (insurance, annual maintenance, major overhaul, tires, unforeseen events, etc.)?
     
    @Jean66 Regarding this question, I'm not going to take my example because I'm a bit fada, as they say back home in the South. I do almost everything preventatively and I want perfection... but to put it simply, it is a very reliable and very affordable car in terms of maintenance and miscellaneous costs.
    Even if the specific coins happily follow the curve of the rating and galloping inflation. All the mechanics are largely affordable for a good Sunday mechanic, or any real mechanic. There are no specific subtleties, and everything is known. Knowing also that the Ferrarista forum helps if you need specific information. Since then, almost everything there has been explored and could have an answer.
     
    Some key figures :
    - all-risk insurance, based on appraisal value, €1,000 on average per year,
    - a basic annual overhaul, excluding labor, €200 to €400,
    - Michelin tires in 16,500 € for 4 installed,
    - a major revision with a hyper accessible distribution and easily valid for 5 years, 1500 to 2000 €, 3000 perhaps with a renowned professional,
     
    In short, average costs for this type of car from the 80s. The ideal being for me, either do it yourself, or take it to an independent who knows the subject, without extorting you because it's is a Ferrari. I will not comment on the official network, for this type of model, and having no real experience.
    As for big surprises, or very, very big revisions, plan for a basket of 10,000 euros and you're good to go.
    Keep in mind, though, that it's an old Ferrari, and regardless, costs can add up very, very quickly!
     
    @Franck In your opinion, what are the points to watch out for on a Ferrari 308 over time?
     
    @Jean66 Paradoxically, if everything is done regularly, it is in good general operating and maintenance condition, it is driven as often as possible, I don't see any particular points to watch out for, ah yes... your driving license 🙂
     

     
    @Franck What preventative measures can be taken, or even improvements?
     
    @Jean66 There, it's very simple, on average, they are around forty years old. Even if the Ferrari 308 QV is renowned as one of the most reliable and efficient, and the last manufactured, if it has not been done, or too old, all the running gear connections, all the hoses, without exception, complete check of the electrical harness. 

    For improvements, two sure bets: the famous classic Koni shock absorbers, set to the hardest, if you play with them. It's still a Ferrari! Basically a car designed by a competitive man. And Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires for the 16' rims! Improvement coupled with redone running gear, and good geometry, and it's just extraordinary, the 308 comes back to life, and becomes formidable! And very secure in sporty driving.

    For prevention, obviously, the fuse box! Also imperative to improve. Over time, it has a strong tendency to catch fire. And the electric windows. Grease, in doors and engines, dries over time and blocks everything. There are tutorials and posts on the forum to explain all this 😉
     
    @Franck And if you had to do it again ?
     
    @Jean66 But yes and without any hesitation!! Me, the former fundamentalist Porschist, who was ready to piss on the wheel of a Ferrari when I saw one...what an idiot! Another world, a legendary brand! What a joy to be able to experience this in your life as a car enthusiast!
     
    @Franck And if you could have any Ferrari, what would be next?
     
    @Jean66 Argggh what a tough question! Obviously the Ferrari 250 GTO, or an F40. But almost too banal 🙂 Actually a Ferrari 288 GTO would be perfect!
     


    @Franck How do you use Ferrarista for your experience with your Ferrari?
     
    @Jean66 I spend there every day, from a few minutes to a few hours. I post there regularly about my Ferrari. I share my experiences on everything that revolves around my Ferrari 308. I often add photos. A Ferrari is so beautiful. And I don't fail to look for an answer or ask a question to the big names of the model who are there: in short, essential! Besides, I think that without Ferrarista, my car would not be as good as I wanted it to be.
    And then what pride to display the now famous annual crest, club sticker, on my quarter panel.
     
    @Franck What does the Ferrarista community bring you?
     
    @Jean66 
    Lots of things, exchanges and sharing above all, information, and a view on all the models and their owners. I discovered a community that I never suspected, enthusiasts with quite incredible knowledge of the brand and models, and all good-natured, with general respect, without the "I'm the one who has the most.. ." Always ready to keep the forum alive, I won't be able to do without it. I became a real Ferrarista addict,
    Thanks Franck!
     
    @Franck A big THANK YOU @Jean66 for your very detailed feedback, a gold mine for anyone interested in the Ferrari 308!
     
    If you own a Ferrari 308, would you have any other points to add for a future owner?
    If you are interested in this model, do you have any additional questions?
     
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    Stradale56 (kani56)
    How can you successfully buy that rare, sought-after, hard-to-find Ferrari that you dream of? How to move forward in such a project, not give up in the face of disappointments, find the right opportunities, the right contacts, the right service providers?
    @kani56-Stradale56 details his Ferrari F355 Challenge project step by step, over the 3 years it lasted, in the middle of his ultra-busy schedule, to inspire you, give you ideas, make you dream!
     

     
    Features
    Years: 1995-2000  Engine: V8 3,5l 40s Transmission: manual 6 gears
    Maximum power: 380 ch at 8 250 tr/min Maximum torque: 363 Nm at 6 000 tr/min
    Weight with fluids: 1 355 kg Maximum speed: N/A Acceleration: N/A
     
    My journey in sports cars
     
    The automobile has been a lifelong passion. Ferrari is a brand that inspired me, that made me dream from a very young age.
    My father was an auto mechanic, he maintained the collection of a local industrialist who owned a Ferrari F40, a Porsche 944 Turbo, a De Tomaso Longchamps, Jaguar XJ220, Porsche 930 Turbo... I passed the garage every day on my way back from school, there was always at least one car inside.
    On Saturday morning, we lived in an HLM 100 m from the workshop, I never missed an opportunity to go back and see if a new car had arrived. There was also often the Alpines weekend and an R5 Turbo1… I also dreamed in front of a white Fuego Turbo belonging to a friend’s father!

    My father also specialized in restoring/building Tractions for his mechanic boss. He was reforming Traction wings! I was fascinated.

    I never went inside these wonders (he didn't want to), which kept the frustration and the dream alive. He had all the extreme cars of the time. Two cars fascinated me in particular: the Ferrari F40, a red car with a racing car look, I had a poster of it in my room, and the De Tomaso Longchamps, an incredible sound!
    I also bought, whenever I could, a car magazine, often Sport Auto.

    I bought my first Ferrari 11 years ago. My goal was to buy a Ferrari before I was 40. Previously, I had a Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9, a Porsche 944 Turbo, a Nissan 300 ZX, an Audi S3 but never an ultimate sports car. I bought a yellow Ferrari F430, then a Ferrari F355 two years later... in the Vigeant parking lot, without even having seen it (Karim's car from the forum)
     

     
    The challenge of the special series Ferrari V8s
     
    The Ferrari F430 was sold to buy a Ferrari 458 Speciale. A year already to find the right configuration and above all to agree to take the psychological step of buying a car for more than 300,000 euros! I then decided to only have Special Series, with the objective of purchasing the entire series. The Ferrari Challenge Stradale was next, an incredible car! The Ferrari 488 Pista was presented just after the purchase of the Ferrari 458 Speciale. I decided to try to “obtain” a purchase order, which was really not easy at the time.
     
    During a Ferrarista trip to Maranello with the yellow F430, I met Arnaud Papini from the Modena Sport dealership in Toulouse. I explain to him the overall project and the Ferrari 488 Pista project. He was the only one who listened. He tells me that he obviously isn't promising me anything but that he will try to find a car. A few months later the magic phone call!! And he found me a purchase order!
    It was my first Ferrari bought new. Then I had the opportunity to go configure it at the factory, at the Workshop, even though places were very limited. An incredible experience for a first new Ferrari!
    At the same time, on the day of delivery of the Ferrari 488 Pista, I bought the Ferrari 430 Scuderia in the parking lot of the Toulouse dealership!!
    A year later, I took a further step and moved away a little from the initial project. I'm buying the Ferrari 599 GTO, a car in the same vein as the Challenge Stradale, which potentially launches a second plan, getting the special V12 series!!
     

     
    La Ferrari F355 Challenge
     
    At the time of taking the Ferrari 430 Scuderia, I began to look at the Ferrari F355 Challenge to obtain continuity from the Special Series V8s.
    I started discussing this with @Trois cinquante cinq. He gave me a lot of information about the car. I looked all over Europe to see that it was very difficult, between those that were involved in accidents and the fact that very few were registered.
     
    Those found in Europe cannot all be registered in France, because they have benefited from registration of convenience in their country, which cannot be transposed. And I didn't want to buy a car just to do track days. 109 Ferrari F355 Challenges were produced in total. There is no precise figure on the number of Ferrari F355 Challenge registered in France. It's between 19 and 30, but more like a low twenties.
    It was the Charles Pozzi dealership that registered the cars. They are not different from the unregistered versions, but since they have not gone through the whole procedure, they are not registrable. The mine type on the Carte Grise indicates MOD following assembly of the Challenge kit.
     

     
    The difficult quest for a beautiful example of Ferrari F355 Challenge
     
    I looked through the ads for two years. I found a very nice Ferrari F355 Challenge in Modena, Italy. But I wasn't available to go see the car right away. It went to the USA and was sold for $250,000!
    Then I found a car in Paris, but after information from Ferrari, it was a Ferrari F355 Challenge which had been badly damaged, then another at Pozzi where despite my trip with an appointment to Paris, I never had the price !!??
     
    I was stalling and last year I found myself doing a run at Castellet in a Ferrari 488 Challenge. There, a friend who knows my fleet and knew that I was looking for a Ferrari 355 Challenge, tells me about one of his friends who is bringing in a Ferrari F355 Challenge today.
    Are you interested in this? He calls his friend, the boss, who tells him that two foreign customers have already positioned themselves there and must travel in the next few days. The next day when it opened after a 2-hour drive, at 9 a.m., I was in front of the garage.

    And this is the discovery of the car: it is a former Cathy Caly, who had raced in rally-cross at the time with a pink Audi Quattro, and in a Citroen ZX. I see the car with a complete file, including a complete set of invoices. She had never been in an accident because she was at the bottom of the rankings. It was serviced by Pozzi before and after each race. I think very quickly, I buy it in half an hour without trying it.
     

     
    Mechanical and cosmetic restoration service providers
     
    We agreed on a major mechanical update at Cheval Cassé. I met Sébastien there, a very nice encounter, a true enthusiast, who was a mechanic in Ferrari Challenge at the time. He works in a closed workshop, above Nice. He only works on very beautiful Daytona cars, Ferrari F40, F50, Maserati MC12, etc. He owns two Ferrari F355s and a very beautiful Ferrari Testarossa Grigio, and is therefore very happy to be able to work on this Challenge again.
     
    A major mechanical overhaul was carried out, including a major overhaul, the replacement of all the hoses, the re-cured cylinder head cover, the screws changed, etc. I had the exhaust remanufactured at Tubistyle, which required three round trips. I now have 3 exhausts: one from Challenge, a TubiStyle and one which did Spa-Francorchamps in 98, and which is so sonorous that it only did one race.
     
    Between May and December 2022, there was the temporary closure of the workshop in December, then the recovery of the car, which was repatriated to the Ranrouët workshop of  @askim2. Sébastien, its mechanic, carried out all the remaining finishing touches, mechanical and aesthetic, finishing with the bodywork. This lasted from December to June 2023. That’s one year in total.
     
    The interior was redone by a local craftsman, Laurent Fleury, who works for Wheeler Dealer, and occasionally for Ferrari Classiche at the Trident dealership.
    I hesitated for months on how to redo it, in leather, in Ferrari F40 interior fabric, or in Alcantara fabric.
    I inquired and noticed that two Ferrari F355 challenges had been redone in Alcantara at the Classic department of Ferrari. So it was possible and it was done again on the following special series. Some Ferrari F355 Challenges were originally released with Alcantara on the dashboard and rear upholstery. The result is superb and contributes to this “racing” atmosphere.
     

     
    The impossible to find part: the seats
     
    In the meantime, I bought a multitude of pieces on the internet in the USA, the Netherlands, and Germany, which is part of the fun. It was an interesting treasure hunt full of pitfalls, scams... The biggest problem was the seats because it didn't have the original seats.
     
    It was delivered with a single OMP seat. I put the leather seats back. At the end of the season, the OMP seats were thrown away because they were no longer approved. Some have been salvaged to have a second seat, so there are very few OMPs left. This is why other Ferrari F355 Challenge are today in Sabelt or other brands.
    I was confronted with a lot of scams, for a budget between 20 and 25,000 dollars, with never the certainty of getting the seats. I found sales ads with carbon kevlar, but there were only carbon seats on Ferrari F355.

    Desperate, I contacted the OMP factory for seats, but an order for two seats is not possible. OK if the order is for 50 or 60 seats. I tell them yes, we can think about it!! Certainly some Ferrarista’s would have been interested!
    I obtain an agreement in principle. OMP needed confirmation from Ferrari to validate the order, but we never got a response. The OMP track has therefore fallen away.

    Looking at the ads as usual, I come across another Ferrari F355 Challenge for sale at Cobalt Automobiles, registered, with seats. I call the garage to tell them that I am ready to take back the seats with an exchange of mine + 20,000 euros. The owner thinks about it for two or three days, a priori not against it. In the end, he did not give up on doing the operation. Back to square one.

    My idea then is to buy the car to get the seats! This also allows the recovery of the original fire extinguisher. The car was purchased, its owner having driven 37,000 kilometers with it. The seats were recovered in May 2023. The car then went to Le Mans Auto Racing for cosmetic preparation and decaling consistent with its presentation livery in 1995.
     

     
    A Ferrari F355 Challenge for what?
     
    I'm picking it up the weekend of the Le Mans Classic 2023, Centenary Edition. I'm taking it on Friday to try it out and do a few first spins. It's an extraordinary experience, there's no better atmosphere. A real thunderbolt !!
    You have to get in the car, harness it, turn on the circuit breaker, start it and then it produces an extraordinary sound, with its Tubistyle exhaust. You have to ride with a helmet because the Ferrari F355 Challenge brakes very hard, you get the roll bar in your head, which risks hitting you. The interior is very narrow. These first turns of the wheels were extraordinary, magical.
     
    The car is complete, but I am not satisfied with the seats, the fabric is damaged, bleached and the rest of the interior is new. I continue my research in Italy to find the fabric this time... without success... finally after discussing with Andrea Modena (Director of Classiche), I decide to bring it to him after the riding season. I should get them back early this year.
     
    It’s a Ferrari F355 Challenge that will drive and do roadtrips, like all my other Ferraris…and the track!
    Moreover, his first real outing was the annual Ferrarista Meeting, at Mas du Clos!! It was an extraordinary ride and I was able to have certain members try this Challenge as passengers but also at the wheel!
    I'm thinking about doing historical events with it. Ferrari is also considering setting up a historic Challenge. They could give the Ferrari F355 Challenge a try. The problem remains the availability of parts. They don't know how to answer this problem at the moment. This would allow the development of the notion of heritage. This car is highlighted on parades today, as part of the Ferrari Challenge in 488.
    Let’s hope for the start of a new story for these Ferrari F355 Challenge.
     

     
    Additional tips if you're looking for a Ferrari F355 Challenge
     
    The finished budget for this car is around 240,000 euros. I have no regrets, quite the contrary! It’s a very endearing car, rather delicate to
    driving on the road, but what a treat!! It has astonishing agility, extraordinary braking and its musicality is incredible!
    It really has its place in my collection and I always find it extremely interesting to move from a car of this type to my future Ferrari SF90 XX.
    Experiences so far away… but so exciting!

    Des conseils pour qui chercherait ce type de Ferrari au final après cette expérience ?
    Patience, patience et patience !! le budget, prévoir large et surtout bien vérifier l’origine de l’auto. Accidentée, pas forcément rédhibitoire sur une auto de course.
    Les compressions évidemment en conditions suspensives.
    Jamais on ne regrette un tel achat !
     
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    Franck
    What were the highlights of 2023 with Ferrarista.club? Those that were really worth living and marked our memory? What will be the experiences not to be missed in 2024? Which ones to mark in your calendar today? To make good resolutions in 2024.
     

     
    Ferrarista.club trip to Maranello in May
     
    The traditional trip to Maranello, since more than twenty have already been organized, was this time exceptional in more than one way.
    On the one hand, it started in Turin, where everyone met in the former Fiat factory, the Lingotto, famous for its rooftop test track, and transformed into a hotel. The opportunity to discover a beautiful part of Italian automotive history, which continued the next day with an exceptional private visit to the Stellantis Heritage Hub, which brings together legendary cars from Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Lancia and Fiat.

    On the other hand, we had reserved the new program for the visiting card of the Ferrari factory, allowing us to discover, in addition to the previous editions, the Ferrari foundry, the painting department and the design department. As usual, we had also added, in addition to the classic visit to the assembly lines, the visit to the Scaglietti bodywork, but also the assembly of Formula 1 cars and sporting activities (F1 Clienti and XX program).
     
    To stay in tradition, we also visited the two Ferrari museums (Modena with a Ferrari 330 P4 and Maranello), the Maserati factory, the Pagani factory and museum, the Stanguellini museum, the Motor Valley Festival (presentation in advance -premiere of the Ferrari Roma Spider, Pagani Utopia and Lamborghini Revuelto among others, as well as a very nice tribute to Mauro Forghieri), the Toni Auto garage, etc. We also had the opportunity to see the Ferrari SF90 XX Stradale before its presentation, as well as the replacement of the camouflaged LaFerrari, on the road. Not to mention excellent dinners at the best Ferrari-related restaurants.
     

     
    If you want to see more photos, you can find this 2023 trip to Maranello here:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/18339-inscriptions-voyage-à-maranello-du-8-au-13-mai-2023/

    Parade of 24h of Le Mans drivers in mid-June
     
    We were asked to represent Ferrari during the 24h of Le Mans drivers' parade, which takes place on Friday. We already knew that the Ferrari drivers were on the first two rows at the start. The excitement was at its height. It was just before winning the 24h of Le Mans with the Ferrari 499P!
     
    It was a privileged moment, to be able to be with the 24h drivers the day before the start, in incredible conditions, to rub shoulders with them up close before the start of the parade: the Ferrari drivers, of course, but also Jenson Button, Sébastien Bourdais, Jean-Eric Vergne, etc.
     
    It was incredible to pass through a crowd of 200,000 people admiring our Ferraris, taking photos of them and waiting to hear our engines roar. With a feeling of incredible communion and shared pleasure... on a large scale. Magic ! With top-notch organization from the association that manages the event.
     

     
    Registrations were made for members via the private forum:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/18396-votre-ferrari-participant-aux-24h-du-mans-2023-in-cro-ya-ble/
    You will find photos and videos of the pilots’ parade here:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/18602-24h-du-mans-2023-les-100-ans/?page=3
     

     
    Le Mans Classic 100 years of the 24 hours of Le Mans at the start of July
     
    To celebrate the 100th anniversary of the 24 hours of Le Mans, with an unprecedented number of participants, Ferrarista.club was the only Ferrari club (apart from two clubs specialized in a specific model) present in the club area to represent the Ferrari brand.
    A traditional dinner was organized on Friday evening allowing members to meet and share in a special, quiet moment.
     
    Photos of members during the 2023 Le Mans Classic:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/17913-le-mans-classic-2023-inscriptions-avec-ferrarista/
     

     
    Meeting International Ferrarista 2023 mid-September

    The 4th annual Ferrarista.club meeting brought together nearly 80 Ferraris in Auvergne in mid-September. He started on the legendary Mas du Clos circuit which had just reopened. He continued on the most beautiful roads in the region, discovering its specialties (Michelin Museum, Saint Nectaire, etc.).

    Three days in an atmosphere of Ferrari enthusiasts, timeless, in a friendly and festive atmosphere. A huge organization, top notch, by @Calif38  Califette, @chtisuisse and @grhum! With great photos from @Ferruccio!
     


    You will find more photos from this meeting here:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/18176-4ème-meeting-international-ferrarista-15-17-sept-2023
    If you are a member, you have access to even more photos in the private area:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/forums/topic/19130-rewind-meeting-2023-rallye-des-légendes/
     

     
    Ferrarista.club 2024 program

    Following a survey carried out among members on the private forum, here is the 2024 program including the events which won the most votes:
     
    1. Spa Classic: mid-May
    2. Trip to Maranello: end of May
    3. Ferrarista dinner at the 30th Sport & Collection: early June
    4. Parade of Ferrari drivers at the 24 hours of Le Mans: mid-June
    5. Chantilly Art & Elegance: mid-September
    6. 5th Ferrarista meeting: end of September
    7. Trip to Maranello + Finali Mondiali: end of October
     
    These events being in high demand and filled in 1 day or 2 (or even 10 minutes for some), only members can register.
     
    To become a member in 2024:
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/store/product/2-membre-de-ferraristaclub/
    To become a Premium member, with registration for events 2 days before everyone else (among other benefits):
    https://www.ferrarista.club/forum-ferrari/store/product/9-membre-premium-de-ferraristaclub/
     
    What event did you attend in 2023? Which event would you like to attend in 2024? What other event would you like us to add to the schedule?
     
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    Franck
    As curious as it may seem to you, the question comes up very often: Is the official color of the Ferrari brand yellow? And what color was the very first Ferrari? Why should the color of your first Ferrari be red? Why are Ferrari Formula 1 cars red? Taking a brief look back at the fabulous history of Ferrari will allow you to see things more clearly and find your answers.
     

     
    The yellow of the city of Modena
     
    Scuderia Ferrari was founded in Modena, Italy on December 1, 1929. Originally, Scuderia Ferrari was a subsidiary of Alfa Romeo, whose cars it prepared for private drivers. The Scuderia Ferrari logo features a prancing horse on a yellow background and the colors of Italy at its top.
     
    Yellow is chosen because it is the color of the city of Modena. Modena is the city where Enzo Ferrari was born and where Scuderia Ferrari was created. The prancing horse was the personal emblem of Francesco Baracca, a heroic pilot who died during the First World War. In 1923 Enzo Ferrari met Count Enrico Baracca whose wife, Countess Paulina, told him one day “put my son's cavallino rampante on your machines. It will bring you luck.” Enzo Ferrari's brother, Alfredo, died at the start of the war while serving in the Baracca squadron.
     

     
    The red of Italy in motor racing
     
    On March 12, 1947, the first car bearing the Ferrari brand was produced in Maranello. This is the Ferrari 125 S (Chassis 01C) equipped with a 1,500 cc V12 developed by Gioacchino Colombo. Scuderia Ferrari is responsible for entering it in competition. The first victory took place in 1947 at the Rome Grand Prix where this first Ferrari 125 S was driven by Franco Cortese with the number 56. In six months, no less than 6 races were won out of 14 contested.
     
    This first Ferrari is red since the beginning of the century all cars have worn the color of their country during the Grand Prix. It's red for Italy, blue for France, green for Great Britain and gray for Germany, for example. This explains why Ferrari Formula 1 cars are still red today. This also explains why the most requested color for a road Ferrari is red as in competition, from which the entire history of Ferrari comes. The famous Rosso Corsa which has actually evolved over the years.
     
    In summary, the color of the Ferrari logo is yellow, the color of the city of Modena. The color of the first Ferrari brand car is red, because it is the color of Italian Grand Prix cars.
     
    Did you know these details of the history of Ferrari and the different colors used? Do you know any other interesting details related to Ferrari colors? What else would you like to learn about the Ferrari colors and logo?
     
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    Mike051
    But what is this light?! Have you ever had a warning light that comes on on the dashboard, which doesn't prevent you from starting, but spoils the pleasure of driving your Ferrari? With the continued development of electronics in our Ferraris, over the years, fears of electronic breakdown or failure have continued to increase in discussions between owners. @Mike051 recently had an alarm malfunction in his Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. He explains in detail how he went about identifying and then solving his problem. With a strategy that might serve you well one day...
     


    @Mike051 : This year has been a good year for “Gina”, our Ferrari 612 Scaglietti. She was able, in addition to frequent valve burn-ins on the beautiful roads of Morbihan, to participate in the drivers' parade for the centenary of the 24 hours of Le Mans, then attend the 3 days of Le Mans Classic, as well as the Ferrarista 3 International Meeting in Auvergne. , each time thanks to Ferrarista. What good times...
    But also, quite a few moments spent parked in the sun. And it should be remembered that in addition to being black, my 612 is equipped with a panoramic glass roof which can cause high temperatures inside.
    It was when leaving the Le Mans Classic, after a hot day, that when starting up the TFT screen showed me a yellow message “Alarm System Failure”, or I imagine in French “Alarm system fault”. The fear of a locked immobilizer system invaded me then, but it did not happen to my great surprise: the Ferrari 612 started immediately, and I was able to return home without problem.
    The next day, I restarted it from my garage, and surprise: no error message. So I let the summer pass, using it normally, to try to better understand what seemed erratic to me at the time. I thought it was due to the temperature being too hot when he left the Le Mans Classic. At the end of the summer, I understood that there was nothing erratic or random about this: this message became systematic after the Le Mans Classic after the alarm worked, and therefore the car was locked. The temperature of the passenger compartment during this event must have caused the malfunction of a component involved in the operation of the alarm.
     
    What strategy should you adopt when you have an electronic problem with your Ferrari?
     
    From there, I remembered that since I owned the Ferrari, I always had strange behavior from its alarm. I never managed to understand how it works:
    - Frequently, after deactivating the alarm, opening the passenger door triggered the siren
    - The beeps from the indicators when the alarm is activated or when it is deleted seemed random to me (from time to time 1 beep, sometimes 2…)
    - Ditto for the alarm indicator LED, located on top of the dashboard, under the windshield: I even happened to drive with this LED indicator lit red!

    When we talk about alarm system problems, we immediately think of the internal battery of the siren. This problem is frequently mentioned on cars over 15 years old where the siren's internal battery fluid ends up leaking and causing short circuits in the siren. But in my case, as I frequently triggered the siren, I suspected that it was not coming from there.
    Another possible avenue: a weak battery, that of the Ferrari this time, can often be the cause of many small gremlins on our cars. But in my case, I had changed the battery myself 1 year before, and my CTEK MXS-5 charger indicated that the battery was in full health.

    How to use OBD to eliminate trivial hypotheses and better understand the problem?
     
    A priori, this was not one of the usual symptoms indicated by members of Ferrarista. So I took out my Autel AP200 OBD reader, and plugged it in. Please note, for owners of Ferrari 599 and 612: the OBD port is located under the steering wheel on the left: there is a hatch with two large screws, with plastic heads. This hatch is removed by pulling it downwards.
     

     
    Following the scan, in the “10 BODY COMPUTER” module, the error “B1028 – Inclination Sensor” appeared.
     
    So here is a clue, and it is all the more interesting because at the ceiling level, the Ferrari 599 and Ferrari 612 Scaglietti have within their light dome two buttons for deactivating the volumetric sensors and the famous inclination sensor, two buttons linked at the same time to the inclination of the car and to the alarm. From there, a search on the forums shows me that this was a frequent problem on the Ferrari 599 and 612. The problem a priori lies in this dome, where an electronic card houses the tilt sensor of the car , which was therefore positioned at the highest point of the car. At this location, he experiences intense heat in summer during a car exhibition.

    So I then dismantled the dome. To do this, I first activated the circuit breaker: this is better to avoid errors subsequently recorded in the car. Then, I removed the light unit (slot on the right with a plastic screwdriver) then removed two screws: the dome is detached. You can then disconnect the 3 cables which are connected to it (no risk of making a mistake when reassembling: they are all different in terms of number of pins but be careful how the connectors are stored, because the space to store them is limited ).
     

     
    A few screws and unclips later, we obtain the 2 parts:
    - The orders part:
     

     
    - And the circuit part itself. We can then see the inclination sensor:
     

     
    A visual examination of the card under a magnifying glass did not reveal any broken solders or burnt components. However, I didn't desolder the metal cage to see what was underneath (it's a multi-layer board): I didn't have any desoldering braid with me, and I didn't want too much. touch this card until I knew if it was an easy card to find or not. Experiences of other members, notably on the TCUs of Ferrari 612 OTOs, taught me to be vigilant regarding the rarity of certain electronic parts.

    How can you broaden the scope of your research through common Ferrari/Maserati parts?

    By digging into the trail of spare parts, it appeared in the databases (Eurospares, etc.) that the electronic card integrating the inclination sensor was not sold individually. The entire dome is sold, at a price of more than €1,000. Furthermore, the reference of the sensor itself is no longer made, replaced by more recent technologies: therefore no possibility of changing only the card or the component itself. It was therefore not useful to diagnose the component itself since it could no longer be found individually.
     
    So I started looking for Ferrari 599 and Ferrari 612 domes (the color didn't matter since I was only interested in the tilt sensor board). Only problem: whether on eBay or LeBonCoin, there were none available. And at the same time, the Ferrari 599 and 612 were produced in a total of less than 8,000 units: the probability of finding one was not very high. And besides, anything that is not common and has the Ferrari logo is generally not cheap.
     
    So I broadened my search: I know that the Maserati Quattroporte and Maserati Granturismo share a lot of electronic elements with the Ferrari 599 and Ferrari 612. I went to check if they didn't have the same dome. And the answer was no…but yes: no because the shape of the dome is not the same, but yes because the buttons are identical, and if the buttons are identical there was a good chance that the electronics behind them were too. . So I looked for ads on eBay for Maserati domes, which are much more common, and the photos allowed me to select a dome that had the same circuit reference on the back as mine. With taxes (it was in Texas), I got it for less than €80, and 1 month of waiting (the package having been temporarily lost in Roissy).
     
    When unpacking, you can clearly see that the dome of the Maserati is different in shape but that the buttons are identical:
     

     
    And the disassembly showed that the circuits indeed had the same reference and that they were identical:
     

     
    A comparison of the two button/circuit pairs, Maserati on the left and Ferrari on the right. The only difference, planned by the manufacturer TRW when designing the circuit, is that the Ferrari has green LED ambient lighting that the Maserati does not have (black and red wires).
     

     
    The last step was therefore to reassemble the dome, then reinstall it by reconnecting the cables, and replace the battery.
     
    I then took the opportunity to reset the car's boxes (starting with all power sources deactivated such as headlights, air conditioning, radio... and waiting for 10 minutes), then I reconnected my Autel AP200 , I read the error codes then cleared them and went for a walk. Coming back, I parked the car in its parking lot and locked it, activating the alarm. The next day, I opened it again, I started the car: no more error messages on the TFT screen, and a new OBD scan showed me that the error had not reappeared. I also discovered a much more logical behavior during the following attempts at the level of the indicators as well as the LED on the dashboard (which I had never seen turn green before), and the passenger door does not trigger no longer the mermaid. All these changes in behavior make me say that my problem is solved!

    @Franck: What can you learn from this concrete case of electronic malfunction on a Ferrari?
    1. By being methodical and taking it step by step, @Mike051 was able to resolve an electronic anomaly present on the dashboard
    2. A simple OBD reader can greatly help you in the diagnosis to find out what the error actually is (See this article: Easily manage your Ferrari's error codes yourself)
    3. By studying the common parts with other brands (many examples on the Ferrarista forum) he was able to find an identical circuit on a much larger spare parts market than that of Ferraris, and for less than €80.
    While not all electronic problems can of course be resolved so easily, many of the little “gremlins” we know can certainly be resolved using such a method.
    Have you encountered similar cases to share with other members?
    What other Ferrari parts do you know are common with other brands?
     
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    Thunder49
    Which modern four-seater Ferrari should you choose to enjoy your passion for the prancing horse brand with your family? The Ferrari 612 Scaglietti was produced from 2004 to 2011 and has a natural class, thanks to its sides, inspired by the Ferrari 375 MM that Roberto Rossellini gave to Ingrid Bergman in 1954. The first Ferrari V12 with an all-aluminum body, it bears the name of the famous coachbuilder whose specialty it was.
    But how do you find a nice copy? How do you know what to look out for? What to expect in terms of maintenance costs? @Thunder49 gives you concrete details of what it means to own a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, in order to project you into the experience.
     

     
    @Franck : Briefly, what is your automotive background and why did you choose the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti?
     
    @Thunder49 : My first automobile choices were guided by budgetary and practical choices, but aesthetics and driving pleasure were always essential in my choices. And the Peugeot brand has always had a special place: first a 206 light cream perforated leather interior, and for several years an RCZ, which is a real treat on a daily basis, in terms of handling and price/pleasure ratio.
    Family life led me to choose more practical and utilitarian vehicles, which my wife uses on a daily basis: currently a 5008 GT.And then, for my 40th birthday, I told myself that I had to treat myself. My choice then fell on a Maserati 4200 GT, with its fabulous Ferrari-sourced V8. I found a blue Nettuno model, with cream interior. An impressive engine, especially above 4500 rpm, all in a melody like only the Italians know how to do, and with 4 seats to enjoy it with the family.
    It was this car that made me realize that I now had to fulfill a dream that I had had since I was 10: to have my Ferrari. The choice fell on the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, because I wanted to stay with a 4-seater, modern, easy to use and maintain.
     


    @Franck : What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti and how did you manage to find your copy?

    @Thunder49 : It's not easy to navigate among the many choices of versions and options. Fortunately, Fabien's precious guide allows you to see things much more clearly!
    First of all, on aesthetics. I wanted it in a dark color, ideally blue, with a crema or sabbia interior, and the beautiful Daytona seats.And then, in terms of equipment, I was looking for a model equipped with the improved F1 gearbox: it was one of the weak points of the Maserati 4200, the slow shifting of gears. The choice of the Sport exhaust was also part of the criteria to fully enjoy the vocals of the V12, even if I would have agreed to change the exhaust!
    The search was long in my opinion: a little over 4 months.
    But when I saw the photos, I fell in love immediately! The contrast between this light leather, and all the carbon elements, as well as the nero daytona exterior, was to die for!
    The purchasing process was a bit complicated because the car was in Switzerland. First we had to make ourselves understood by Swiss Germans who didn't speak a word of French and hardly any English...
    I was assisted by an agent to take care of the import procedures, payment of French VAT, and reimbursement of Swiss VAT.
     

     
    @Franck : What struck you the most about your Ferrari 612 Scaglietti in use?
     
    @Thunder49 : Several things.
    First of all, it’s the pleasure shared as a family. My 11-year-old daughter is a fan of the acceleration accompanied by the song of the Ferrari V12. And she's not the only one ! What an engine. It pushes hard at all revs, allowing you to drive quietly at 80 km/h in 6th, or to push the gears: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. at unmentionable speeds.
    Then, it’s the presence of this car. It really impresses on the road, and the Ferrari logos allow those less knowledgeable to identify the origin. Well, almost all of them: once, at a gathering, a participant said to me: “That panamera is beautiful!” ".
    And then I really enjoyed the exchanges with other enthusiasts. My car was discreet though, well for a Ferrari..., but I don't count the thumbs up from the other drivers I met on the road, the people who came to chat, and the eyes of the kids I let sit behind the flying.
     


    @Franck : Can you tell us about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti (insurance, annual maintenance, major overhaul, unforeseen events, etc.)?

    @Thunder49 : After two years, the costs have been very limited. A major maintenance had been carried out just before purchase, with changing of the timing belts. So I only did one maintenance with engine and gearbox oil change, for less than €700 at my local specialist.
    Insurance through Tea Cerede costs me €1000/year.
    However, you have to plan a significant fuel budget: it is certainly the fastest car in the world to go from one station to another!

    @Franck : In your opinion, what are the points to watch out for on a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti over time?

    @Thunder49 : Not much, it's a very reliable model. Apart from the classic wear rates of CCM brakes and the clutch, you have to look at the bearings, which tend to wear out quickly, especially at the front, given the weight of the engine.
     

     
    @Franck : And if we had to do it again ?
     
    @Thunder49 : Without hesitation, I would use the same one again!
    What better way to join the Ferrari family than by starting with a V12?
    The Ferrari 612 is modern, efficient, reliable, and not too flashy, especially in black.
    However, for my next Ferrari, I would like a 430 spider.
     

     
    @Franck : How do you use Ferrarista for your experience with your Ferrari? What does the Ferrarista community bring you?
     
    @Thunder49 : I used the experience of the Ferrarista community from the research phase for my car. My questions about buying a Ferrari were not something I saw myself sharing at the coffee machine with colleagues! It was therefore pleasant and reassuring to exchange with the other members, much more specialists than me.
    And more generally, I really appreciated the sharing of experiences and the good humor of this group.
    Finally, rallies, like LeMans Classic, in which I participated twice with Ferrarista, are moments that will remain forever engraved in my memory.
     
    A big THANK YOU @Thunder49 for all this information on life with your Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, which may make others want to take the plunge too.
    If you own a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, what other information would you like to add about it?
    If you are interested in the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, what additional questions do you have about it?

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    Spboudart

    Long term test: Ferrari 456 GT by spboudart

    Par Spboudart, dans Achat et revente, 

    The Ferrari 456 has always been appreciated thanks to its timeless design, worthy of the lineage of the magnificent Ferraris with V12 front engines, with four seats. A very nice entry into the Ferrari world for those looking for 4 seats. The first copies were released in 1992, what do you need to know about it when you're looking for one? What experience can you expect today with a Ferrari 456 GT? What will the maintenance costs be?
    @Spboudart has owned a beautiful Ferrari 456 GT since 2019: a recent enough purchase for current experience and at the same time a look back at the first years of use. And as he is far from being stingy with comments, you will enjoy reading his feedback, even if the Ferrari 456 GT does not interest you. Quite simply automobile passion.
     

     
    @Franck : Briefly, what is your automotive background and why did you choose the Ferrari 456 GT?
     
    @Spboudart :  Quickly: me! to tell a story, it’s just not possible…. I think my biggest fault is precisely being WAY TOO talkative.
    Cars mainly started with my father who always had big BMWs, he even had the first 735i (2nd gen E32) delivered to France…. It was the test model (Midnight blue gray interior if some remember) that the dealerships were not allowed to sell, but a pretty little "pig" weighing 135kg, in the Fontainebleau forest, decided to cross the road just in front of his 735i (1st gen E23). My father therefore found himself without a car and “threatened” the dealership to go to Jaguar if he couldn’t get the E32. He also had other cars such as Audi Quattro and Porsche 944 before purchasing, towards the end of the 90s, collector cars: Jaguar MK X, MK IX, Bentley MK V, Royce Rolls Twenty, Citroën SM, DS presidential, Méhari, Mercedes 190SL, 280SL, Maserati Sebring, Aston Martin DB7.
    For my part, it started with an Acadiane (bought by my father at the estate), an old DDE, it was orange with gray fenders and the rear doors painted with red and white zebras: Magnificent!!! I only kept her for 3 weeks because while playing Fangio in the forest she got caught by three trees. To summarize, there was 50m between the tank (remaining on the first tree) and the opposite side window…. A dirty business!!! We still have the registration document.
    The sequel is nothing exceptional for several reasons. First I did my studies in the US (following the Acadiane episode, my parents did not want me to have a vehicle there), then being an officer in the Merchant Navy, I was shipped up to has 9 months per year at the start of his career. But the main reason is that I always wanted a Ferrari and other cars didn't matter to me. In reality, there are many cars, more than 100 at 1/43, around ten at 1/24 and around thirty at 1/18: Only Ferraris!!!
    Why the Ferrari 456GT: Because I graduated in June 93 at the time of the first deliveries and therefore diploma in hand the objective was to have this Ferrari. I could have changed my mind over time but I wanted a V12, 4 seats, a manual gearbox and then it's the last one to have the historic designation of unit displacement (tradition when you're talking about us!).
    It's a powerful car, even if today 442HP seems low for a Ferrari, at the time it was enormous, it was the first production 4-seater to exceed 300 km/h.
     


    @Franck : What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari 456GT and how did you manage to find your copy?
     
    @Spboudart : Initially the first criterion was the combo. My miniature collection started with the 1/18 and my Ferrari 456 GT was Le Mans blue with cream interior (in fact all my other 1/18s are red: the 456 already had a separate place!), so This is the one I wanted.
    The first one I went to see had the right combo, it was at Colombo Challenge in Aubagne near Castellet (and also not very far from where I live), but there was no “deal” effect. Phew” expected…. It was beautiful, had very few km, but I found the cream interior “dirty”. Far be it from me to criticize anyone because in reality this interior was perfect, but the seams had taken on a grayish tint: Yuck!!!
    No problem, I intended to take my time, because in hunting or fishing: it’s not just the catch that counts. You have to know how to savor this moment.
    Then there was, on the right corner, the announcement of this Canna di Fucile, with this much warmer “tan” interior which caught my eye. I watched it for several weeks... Canna di Fucile is a historic color of the brand, right? (tradition: when are you going to let go of me?)
    In short, call and meeting planned with the seller on January 27, 2019 at Perpignan airport: BIG BIG favorite!!!!
    Before I even tried it, I knew it was the right one. My baby was intended for the German market, but was delivered new in France by POZZI, she was registered for the first time on August 21, 1995 (same birthday as my second daughter: destiny, you are there too!) . She has always been French.
    My seller, also French, had and still has a business in Barcelona, he reconditions all Spanish rental Opels for resale, but also a magnificent Porsche restoration workshop (https://typ901.net). A great car enthusiast, he bought this Ferrari 456 GT to test himself on something other than a Porsche. According to him, he did work for the equivalent of €25,000 (unfortunately I don't have any invoices for all of this because there never was any), he made his guys work on it during the low times . Still according to him, the car would have been completely dismantled to be repainted, but I readily believe him given the condition it was in after 24 years and 75,000 km. He also had a file several cm thick with all the history.
    It was therefore a Ferrari 456 GT, which certainly had significant mileage, but consistent with its age (3,000/year), which had always been taken care of before undergoing a beautiful restoration. I have always been afraid of exceptional old cars with low mileage... I always wonder why the owner doesn't take advantage of them... and I always find 2 answers: no time or no money! So I conclude a lack of love… that’s my opinion (it’s like a bullet hole: we each have one!).
    On the way back, after reflection, we made a rather low offer (my wife thinking that we couldn't buy the first one we saw)... the seller tried to make a counter offer but my wife didn't. didn't want to give up anything... One day she gave me a bronze plaque inscribed “Mi esposo es el Capitan pero yo soy la Comandante” (I don’t know if it was one of Castro’s or Ché’s wives who said it), that says it all... The seller finally gave in and the deal was done!!!!
     


    @Franck : What struck you the most about your Ferrari 456 GT in use?
     
    @Spboudart : First of all, it’s clearly the flexibility of the V12, it’s just impressive! Honestly, anyone can pick it up and will have it in hand immediately (no worries). My eldest daughter just got her license, I offered to drive her, she refused, but I know she could drive it perfectly.
    Next comes its bi-polarity, a lamb below 4,500 rpm and a fawn above.
    Finally, its balance: if you push a little hard in a roundabout, on wet ground or in a hairpin, your ass will go away, but you never feel in danger. It slips but it is managed with the steering wheel and the accelerator with disconcerting ease. Impossible to go to the pile, everything is still under control.

    @Franck : Can you tell us about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari 456 GT (insurance, annual maintenance, major overhaul, unforeseen events, etc.)?
     
    @Spboudart : 
    Insurance: it’s like for all other Ferraris, around €1,000 with Allianz (I think they are unbeatable).
    As for maintenance and major overhauls:
    - the distribution must be done every 3 years, without removing the engine (because it is located at the front). The previous time (in 2021) I had it done at LMC Auto in Solliés Pont (83). The Ferrari Service Center in Aix-en-Provence caught fire and did not reopen. It cost me €1,700. I have to do it again in 2024 and I will also go to his place.
    - an oil change should be done every year or every 20,000 km. Given its age, the fact that it only does 4,000 km/year and its oil consumption, I only do it every 2 years. The last one in 2022 was also made at LMC Auto for €700.
    - my car consumes around 1L/1000 km of oil, as expected in the maintenance booklet, but this does not represent a big annual blow (40€)
    - I had to replace the clutch which failed before the car reached 80 Mkm: €3,500
    - I replaced my front and rear pads last February, having done the job myself, I did not have any labor, just the supply of parts €230.
    - I had never replaced the gearbox oil (every 2 years or 20,000km according to the manual) since I had the car, so I took the opportunity to also replace the brake fluid (after replacing the platelets). Intervention made this year in Eguilles (13) at the relocated Ferrari Service Center: €700
    - Tires: the annoying subject!!!! When I picked up the car in 2019, the tires were new…. In May 2022, I had to change the rear axle (death I had slicks inside): €1,300!!! They are dead again (not as much as the first train, but a change nonetheless). And there, it’s no longer even a question of price because they are nowhere to be found!!!! I also have to change the front ones but that's no problem. Roughly speaking, a front train lasts me 20,000 and a rear train less than 10,000…. you remember the balance of the car, the sliding, etc.… in fact, I should stop…. but it amuses me so much... and then if we have this kind of car it's for fun!!!
    A guy who goes on the circuit knows that one train = one day! No problem with that!
    No, what’s annoying is not finding them!!!!
    Unforeseen :
    - the AR suspension… the subject that really gets you worked up!!! After my first service, I decided to have my AR shock absorbers reconditioned (slightly leaking and known problem on the forum). Cost: €800… but it was a huge mistake!!!!! Because shortly after I had a shock absorber that exploded. The phenomenon having never been observed by a member of Ferrarista, it was on Ferrarichat that I found the cause (1 car / year for around ten years, in conditions similar to what happened to me: I opened a topic on the forum)
    The 456 is equipped with suspension spheres (like on a DS, but smaller), controlled by the same hydraulic circuit as the power steering pump. As the membrane of these spheres ages, it hardens and ends up sending a “bump” into one of the shock absorbers which bursts (by being slightly leaky it absorbed the shock).
    So towing + 2 shock absorbers (€2,300 each) + 2 spheres (€130 each) + MO = €5,000
    The story does not end there !!!! Because at the time when it happened I was 500 m from my home, and although having heard a noise, I was able to reach my home without worry, it was only by turning in my path that I heard a weird noise coming from the power steering…I realized I was losing oil.
    So a year and a half later my power steering pump which had been running without oil and which had to take a “chestnut” failed: €1,300 to be added to the small affair.
    - Air conditioning… the subject that could have hurt a lot!!! She was walking on fire! One day when I had blown the cigarette lighter fuse (using a “crap” electric jack bought on Aliexpress), I decided to check all my fuses and discovered a 30A instead of a 20A for the air conditioning... obviously and for safety reasons, I replaced it.
    A few weeks later the air conditioning no longer worked... so I gave a 20 again, telling myself that the first one was defective... but after a while it failed! While talking with a friend, he suggested to me that since I had an air conditioning system that worked very hard, it was possible that, on a car of my age, the compressor could have been replaced by a more powerful one requiring 30A: that's held on! No ? Would you have believed it too?
    So I put in a 30A, but it also fails... and I find, miraculously, in my spare fuse box, the one that I had removed a few months earlier. And there, fortunately I had a fire extinguisher in the trunk, because the electrical panel caught fire, and in less than a minute I would have lost the car, but probably also the house! I found a painting in Poland for €1,300. The replacement was done in less than 2 hours….. It seems that I should have taken another board from a specialist because the Ferrari integrated circuits before 2000 were not great. It's been in place for 2 years and everything is fine, except that I still don't have air conditioning.
    Quote from Ferrari for €4,500 replacing the compressor, but having tested the circuit, it seems that it comes from the condenser, I found one... it's in the garage: I have to take care of it. But I think I'm a little scared!!!
     


    @Franck : In your opinion, what are the points to watch out for on a Ferrari 456GT over time?
     
    @Spboudart : 
    The V12 of the Ferrari 456 has a displacement of 5.5L (and yes 12 times 456!) and only 442HP, which makes it a not too powerful engine with only 80 HP/L. For example, the engine of a Ferrari F355, sold in the catalog at the same time, produces almost 110 HP/L.
    Even if it is not the only recipe for reliability, it is a robust engine that does not suffer much if regularly maintained.
    I have heard of the valve problem, but not all vehicles are affected. The valve clearance adjustment had been done on mine by the previous owner and I never had any problems in that regard.
    A clutch that does 80,000 km is not a black point either, in my opinion, it remains a wearing part.
    It is therefore on the rest of the vehicle that we will have to focus.
    The Ferrari 456 GT has a major design flaw: the window seals. And there is no solution. I disassembled, tried to adjust, etc... NIL, NADA... The problem is less present on MGTs but remains existing.
    The big point to watch out for, based on my experience, remains the suspension spheres.
    There is no point in taking original Ferrari spheres, they are expensive. The BMW 750il (E92) were equipped with the same spheres and they cost less than €150 each. They can be found on Oscaro (https://www.oscaro.com/accumulateur-de-suspensionabilité-bmw-serie-7-serie-7-e32-750i-5-0-i-300cv-boite-auto-1718- 1369-0-gt), etc... You can replace them yourself with a good jack, there are video tutorials. Regardless, I advise any future Ferrari 456 owner to change them upon purchase, unless they have proof that this has been done. €300 vs €6,300 the calculation is quick.
    If I can allow myself one last piece of advice, it’s to ride!!! A vehicle, whatever it is (boat, motorcycle, car, plane, etc.), which does not run regularly becomes damaged, especially when it begins to reach a certain age. I take my car out at least every 10 days, sometimes just to drive around twenty kilometers, but its fluids circulate in its organs, rise in temperature and enliven the beast.

    @Franck : And if you had to do it again ?
     
    @Spboudart : No regrets, I would do exactly the same thing again. Apart from changing these famous spheres upon purchase, of course.
    I love my car, its design, its color, its interior, its engine, its handling, its bi-polarity, its mechanical gearbox, the fact of being able to go for a ride with the family, etc...
    It seems that you should never have regrets... but for me, it's very different, I'm living a love story!
    A love which was a platonic idyll for 26 years and which came to fruition almost 5 years ago with “orgasmic” intercourse.
    My friend @Juanitoy keeps repeating: you don't sell your first Ferrari! I think he also has a love story with his family.
     


    @Franck : How do you use Ferrarista for your experience with your Ferrari?
     
    @Spboudart : Ferrarista is several times a day. A “click” on “Unread content”, a “scroll down” and if I like a subject, I read, sometimes I respond. But I only have 1,000 posts in 5 years. That's an average of one every 2 days, so sometimes there are 3 in one day (exchanges on a subject) and nothing for a week. But I think I have regular consumption.
    I have been on forums for over 15 years. I even set up one, with a friend, which had a good life and has since closed. I have never been a “keyboard warrior”, have always rebelled against “dictator” administrators or “little boss” moderators and that is what I greatly appreciate here, there is no competition from that who has the longest, the biggest, etc... moderation is perfect!!!
    This is important because it makes the place pleasant to spend time there.
    The mentality of the members reflects this moderation. Here, passionate people who have collections worth several millions rub shoulders with guys who dream of the Ferrari they don't yet have. It is said in my activity that the Captain of the ship dictates the mentality on board… so thank you to you  @Franck and your team for this beautiful place.
    I obviously like this forum for what it provides in terms of technique and shared knowledge, we have some real gems among our members (I won't give any names, but that's just so I don't forget anyone).
    Every day, we learn something new. I adore ! I think it was Mandela who said something like “a day is wasted if you haven’t learned anything”. Thanks to Ferrarista and its members, many days were not wasted for me.
     
    @Franck : What does the Ferrarista community bring you?
     
    @Spboudart : Friends, but not those we have on Facebook or other social networks. Real ones, with which we have picnics (during walks – we are planning one this weekend), lunches, dinners, vacations, etc...
    Some of them weren't on the forum and we dragged them there.
    I always thought that one of the main functions of a forum (and even of the Internet in general) was to be a means of communication in order to be able to meet.
    At the time when I was very active on the forums, I loved organizing GTGs (Get together).
    Ferrarista also means great encounters and magical moments:
    I hadn't yet arrived on the forum for the 1st annual meeting organized by the Lyon gang, but I participated in all the following ones: the 2 organized by @camille, the one in Reims and the last one at Mas du Clos: Fabulous !
    Reims was an expedition, 2 days to go up, 3 there and 3 to go down taking the Route des Alpes.
    I also love the other little meetings between members: Galette from @mimix, Lavandes from @ladivademaranello26 . Unfortunately, the schedule of my boardings does not allow me to be there systematically (I was lucky for the annual meetings).
     
    Whoa! What a wealth of information and anecdotes about the Ferrari 456 GT! A huge THANK YOU to @Spboudart for this long article as we love them here on Ferrarista!
    If you own a Ferrari 456 GT, what advice would you give to a future buyer? What are the reasons to be interested in this model?
    If you're thinking about the Ferrari 456, what other information would you like to know before taking the plunge?
     
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    Franck
    In mid-September 2023, the 4th international Ferrarista meeting took place in Auvergne with nearly 80 Ferraris coming from France, Belgium and Switzerland, but also members from Japan and New Zealand! At the beginning of March, in just one weekend, all available places had been taken! Madness.
    For what ? Because it's rare. Beyond all the activities offered, to be shared between enthusiasts, it is the incredible atmosphere which attracts, with this impression of being at home, among one's own, forgetting all your daily problems, for a few days of happiness outside time.
    Okay, but concretely, what was this 4th Ferrarista meeting? Well here are my top 5 of the best moments I experienced there. It will be different for everyone, and I thank you for sharing yours in comments, as the fabulous moments were numerous and varied.
     

     

    1. Enjoying the Ferrari ride with the other members
    The Saturday morning ride on the small Auvergne roads got off to a bad start, from my point of view: it was raining. GOOD. Since a long time. The landscape was gray and the road was slippery. My Ferrari Challenge Stradale, in the past, with its Pirelli tires, did not like these conditions. She had several times given me nice, unexpected slides, without particularly riding hard. Extreme vigilance is required in these conditions! Not very fun...
    However, now equipped with Michelin tires, over the kilometers, I gained confidence on these wet roads to the point where I could really enjoy them. And on these small roads, the Ferrari Challenge Stradale is pure joy! Well planted on its supports, with the sound of a racing car invading the cabin, well harnessed in the harnesses, with someone in front (the pilot fish) who sends it well, these are moments that make you adore your Ferrari! A real kick that goes bananas!
    A Ferrarista meeting is also that. Being able to drive in excellent conditions, on selected, magnificent roads, where you would probably never have gone alone, with lots of other Ferraris around, these are moments when you take full advantage of your Ferrari, of what it was designed to do. been designed. You get the most out of your purchase. With small rolling groups adapted to your driving style.
     

     
    2. Drive the extraordinary Ferrari F355 Challenge (or the Ferrari of your dreams)
     
    My first Ferrari was a Ferrari F355. It was the Ferrari of my dreams. One of the most beautiful Ferraris ever produced, in my point of view, with a magnificent Formula 1 sound of the time, and the legendary metal grille for shifting gears. Several times I had looked at the Ferrari F355 Challenge but they seemed too radical for my use. @kani56-Stradale56 came to the Ferrarista meeting with his newly acquired Ferrari F355 Challenge, fresh from a complete restoration by model specialists. Needless to say, it is magnificent and interested me a lot!
    What was my surprise when @kani56-Stradale56 came to see me to ask me to do him “a favor”, without obligation to say yes. “The F355 Challenge is out of gas, I have to run the other Ferrari, would you mind going and filling it up?” What!? It's the kind of offer you can't refuse. We must seize the opportunity.
    It's a real racing car. You have to be flexible to successfully fit into the passenger compartment. All the controls are harder than in a normal Ferrari F355. But you find your bearings relatively quickly, when you are used to the F355 like me. As soon as it is hot, on the other hand, it is very different. Pure happiness. A real kart. It's very light, comparatively, the sound invades the cabin even more, because of the stripping and the freer exhaust. Fabulous ! And therefore a great moment which will also remain engraved in my memory. Something to be experienced, from my point of view, by every Ferrari enthusiast. Because Ferrari is racing, it’s genes.
    This is also what a Ferrarista meeting is: the opportunity to discover and ride in rare Ferraris, which perhaps you are considering acquiring in the future. And being able to get a real experience with the car can change everything, one way or the other. But at least you experience great moments sharing your passion.
     

     
    3. Drive your Ferrari on the legendary Mas du Clos circuit
     
    The Mas du Clos circuit is extraordinary. Everyone (in our Ferrari world) has in mind the fabulous test of the Ferrari F40 LM by Jacques Laffite, broadcast in Turbo on M6. It is above all the location of Pierre Bardinon’s incredible Ferrari collection. A very symbolic place for any Ferrarista. The reopening of this legendary circuit to the public could therefore not be missed, to enjoy it as soon as possible. From our next Ferrarista meeting!
    I was not disappointed, on the contrary, by the difference between the perception of this circuit on video and actually driving on it. It is really very hilly and it is a great pleasure to go around it with your Ferrari. It also seemed wider to me, and therefore less “dangerous” (narrow and without clearance) than in the video. The parade of nearly 80 Ferraris on it was another magical moment, which puts stars in your eyes.
    That's what a Ferrarista meeting is all about: legendary places, steeped in history, potentially linked to Ferrari and a unique opportunity to run your Ferrari on the circuit, in safe conditions. The opportunity to take full advantage of what a Ferrari is, something you cannot fully achieve, serenely, on the open road. With sessions for each level, and for ladies, so that absolutely everyone takes the opportunity to fully drive their Ferrari, pushing all gears up to 8-9,000 revs, in optimal conditions! Often for the first time, whether behind the wheel and/or on the track.
     

     
    4. Share your passion with enthusiastic young fans
     
    Another huge reason for satisfaction during this Ferrarista meeting: the enthusiastic feedback from the young local generation. Not only does such a meeting allow you to meet and share with other passionate owners, in tune with you, but we also had several young people, including women, who tried to experience the event as closely as possible. Young people who are used to following local events, who take photos, share them and were present from the first evening, even before the meeting started the next day!
    It's always a pleasure to share as much as we can with other enthusiasts (see the cars, take photos, get in them, even take a ride as a passenger) and a pleasure to see that the next generation is assured! No, young people are not losing interest in our cars. No, the future will not only be electric. And any Ferrari enthusiast can experience great moments of passion today (and tomorrow).
     

     
    5. And... chat during a wonderful aperitif in the garden
     
    Finally, if I have to choose only five, I would also include, personally, among these top moments, the aperitif organized on Friday evening in the hotel garden. A large garden with trees, with tables and chairs everywhere, to sit and chat. Encourage meetings. The weather was nice and there was a particularly pleasant atmosphere, with the dozens of Ferraris parked all around, the low light of the setting sun, the mildness of the Indian summer, the jazz group playing nicely, the bar serving impeccable, the smiles of all participants, aware of the chance to participate in such a unique and promising event, because it was then just getting started...
     

     
    Whoa! It was very difficult to choose only 5, and at the same time, the exercise allows you to paint a synthetic picture of the 4th Ferrarista meeting. To engrave very good memories here, for those who were lucky enough to participate. To describe a little more, without too much length, what to expect, if you wish to participate in the next one.
     
    I could also have told you about my intervention on the subject of Ferrarista.club, allowing me to give perspective to the members, the very good restaurants discovered, all the thumbs up and the positive feedback along the roads, the Modena Sport dealership from Toulouse, extraordinary partner, which allowed members to test the Ferrari Roma and 296 GTS, the Ferrari F40 and 458 Challenge present for baptisms on the circuit, and above all the extraordinary organization set up by @Calif38, califette, @chtisuisse, @grhum and all the members who helped as pilot fish (leader of a driving group), grid girls, photographer or videographer, instructor driver on the circuit. A colossal job. A big THANK YOU to them!
     
    A big THANK YOU also @Ferruccio for his superb photos illustrating this article.
     
    This top 5 only reflects my personal choices. If you were lucky enough to be able to participate, what were your top moments from this meeting, from your point of view, with a little hindsight? What was great and what would you like to relive at the next Ferrarista meeting? What could we improve?
    If you weren't able to participate, what did you find great in one of your previous outings that we could draw inspiration from?

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    FCT-95
    The Ferrari California appeared in the Ferrari catalog in 2009. Followed by the Ferrari California T in 2014, replaced by the Ferrari Portofino in 2017, it allowed many owners to access the Ferrari myth, with an easy-to-use car. everyday use, equipped with a V8 engine, two small seats in the rear and a retractable roof. It was clearly going to hunt on the grounds of more general brands and the success was there.
    What to look for if you're looking for a Ferrari California? Which options to favor? What are the points to check? What to expect in terms of usage costs? How can you make your Ferrari experience a dream come true? The best thing is always to get feedback from an owner who has owned the model for a few years.
    @FCT-95 owns a Ferrari California T, equipped with a new twin-turbo V8 compared to the Ferrari California. He tells you his story with his Ferrari. The opportunity to learn a lot about this model.
     

     
    @Franck: What is your automotive background and why did you choose the Ferrari California?
     
    @FCT-95: Having spent my time working, I realized at 38 (in 2007) that it would be time to treat myself. So I bought my first 4-wheeled toy: a BMW Z3, 2.8l - 193 hp, English green, cream interior. Then in 2016, a BMW Z4, 35i (306 hp, 7 double clutch gearbox, midnight blue, ivory interior, crazy sound system). The criteria were the same each time: convertible, excellent engine, long hood. I then looked towards Stuttgart, forgetting the pleasure of the long hood. In the 911 (997 or 991), I had the same sensations as in the Z4, in short a German, nothing more. After much hesitation, I dared to go to Pozzi with some ulterior motives and still looking for a convertible with the engine in the front.
    @Franck: What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari California and how did you manage to find your copy?
     
    @FCT-95: The Portofino not being in my budget, I put my project on hold for a few months and discovered the Ferrari California T. I wanted it red, Cuoio interior, with all the maintenance invoices. At the end of 2019, I returned to Pozzi. They had one on consignment/sale. I sat on the quality of the sound system. I loved the carbon steering wheel with its LEDs. 3 days later, after trying it, I signed. 14 long days later, I went to pick her up with my son. An unforgettable moment !
     

     
    @Franck: How do you use the California T on a daily basis?
    @FCT-95: Over the last 4 years, with the Ferrari California, we have participated in the Italian Meeting in Montlhéry (this is the opportunity to tour on a circuit with 2 banking). We filmed at Les Ecuyers then at Mas du Clos during the 2022 then 2023 meetings of Ferrarista.club. Clearly the Mas du Clos is the most suitable for our cars. I'm not a pilot. The circuit allows me to have fun letting go of the horses (and grilling the atmosphere). On the other hand, I am not a fan of heavy braking when entering corners.
    My real use is a few romantic weekends each year (Bordelais, Burgundy, the Opal Coast, Normandy, SPA, Champagne, the Loire). I take care to always have a closed parking lot. But I admit that having left it several times just anywhere during the day, I haven't had the slightest problem yet.
    We went to the Le Mans Classic with the club and we did the Route des Grandes Alpes (Thonon to Menton via the highest French Alpine road passes). The two have nothing to do with each other but are great! In my countryside, I take one or two rides a month for the pleasure of hearing the V8 sing and for the thumbs-up from the kids and bikers. Incidentally, this allows the fluids to rotate, which is good for our beautiful machines.
    I forgot, after buying your Ferrari online, you are invited to the launches of new vehicles in always nice settings.
     
    @Franck: What struck you the most about your Ferrari California in use?
     
    @FCT-95: Its "everyday" comfort, this phenomenal and infinite acceleration, the pleasure I have in looking at it both from the outside and from the inside, this noise it makes when you accelerate enough but not too much, the smell of leather. On the irritating side, the steering wheel sometimes forgets to go back down to the driving position when I turn on the ignition and there is this incessant squeaking in the passenger seat (when there is no passenger). Sometimes I just sit in there for fun. Late one evening, I discovered that my son was already in the car :-).
     

     
    @Franck: Can you tell us about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari California (insurance, annual maintenance, major service, unforeseen events, etc.)?
     
    @FCT-95: My Ferrari California dates from 2015 and had a 7-year warranty. I haven't had any unpleasant mechanical or other surprises yet. The 2023 revision cost ~€1,800 at Pozzi. Thanks to @Jérôme46 and the article on last year's 458 Special, I changed Allianz insurance agent to join the Parisseaux firm in Le Mans. I now pay ~€1,000/year for 7,000 km.
     
    @Franck: In your opinion, what are the points to watch out for on a Ferrari California over time?
     
    @FCT-95: The squeaking of the passenger seat and the little electrical problems that I spoke about but I think they are insoluble (by Pozzi's own admission). But is this the answer to your question? Nothing to report on a car that is a little over 8 years old.
     

     
    @Franck: And if you had to do it again ?
     
    @FCT-95: I will take the same one again. It's simple, the MIF (Meeting International Ferrarista) is an opportunity to look at the Ferraris of other members of the club, to get in them, to take a ride as a passenger, to chat. Well, after hours of discussions with friends, I can't think of a better car and I happily sit back behind the wheel of my Calif.
     
    @Franck: How do you use Ferrarista for your experience with your Ferrari? What does the Ferrarista community bring you?
     
    @FCT-95: Every year, I participate in the F1 predictions competition hosted by @Zaz (thanks again), the calendar, the MIF (thanks also to @Stradale V8 and @Calif38). In the club I find a common passion, common interests, a way of thinking that suits me, nice members that I enjoy meeting.
    A big THANK YOU @FCT-95 for all this information for those wishing to know more about the Ferrari California T!
    If you own this model, what other advice would you give to a future buyer? What to pay attention to when purchasing?
    If you are interested in purchasing one, what additional information would you like?
     

     
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